From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Juanma Barranquero" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: basic question: going back to dired Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:15:00 +0200 Message-ID: References: <4884DC7F.6060406@gmail.com> <87myk828zm.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> <87y73rzd9b.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216908994 23865 80.91.229.12 (24 Jul 2008 14:16:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:16:34 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 24 16:17:23 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KM1cw-0007EE-5z for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:17:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53446 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KM1c2-0003oh-8h for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:16:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KM1ax-0002ks-Ov for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:15:03 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KM1aw-0002i7-0w for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:15:03 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35303 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KM1av-0002hq-N0 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:15:01 -0400 Original-Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.185]:58760) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KM1av-0004cO-NT for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:15:01 -0400 Original-Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c7so6932971nfi.26 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:15:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=WgOvvn1TGhKega1/eLHZq6i8JUEK3ZZraW1i0x83uoQ=; b=LBCTkWU6r3jgOvj++VC2IyWB9qMG++fjqg/VIV8m5a32wVPKwXrTGd8LFQCNS4cSA1 v+NPsZfwgwfYuMPqh/Ocv2xKmi7dVDm972rABR23NiTmZiEdW/2telvh/dJU7h/neQMO H/6Fz2dbNQ+chF71Yw/Ek7CENSmhUnndN0BOI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=tKuN3Bwdv/CwwZQ7T/uhWjWekW8q5ObG8K3VI47h/Fua24DUrXAQuTENWfPW8vhwkH qeyHtdep+9xSriTrw74whsQkQKWpZuORlZly+6KYaVOJl1QKxYDAsozVEVeg15QDEcUJ nS/yqLTyWmBYuSETRe+1eRulfUpqGGvExndTg= Original-Received: by 10.210.10.1 with SMTP id 1mr379192ebj.158.1216908900431; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:15:00 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.210.71.14 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:15:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87y73rzd9b.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:55906 Archived-At: > Bastien writes: > Those who say "Hey! The learning curve is too high." are those > who don't really want/need Emacs. That's an overgeneralization I cannot agree with. Perhaps these are people who have limited time to spend and (their fault, ours, or both) do not see the benefits of switching to Emacs, while the difficulties are painfully evident. Juanma