From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Juanma Barranquero" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: basic question: going back to dired Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:07:24 +0200 Message-ID: References: <4884DC7F.6060406@gmail.com> <819feff4-76e3-4bf8-9ece-7b47f099efc2@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <87mykaw8sb.fsf@nonospaz.fatphil.org> <20080722135656.GB7226@stats.ox.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216739386 28466 80.91.229.12 (22 Jul 2008 15:09:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:09:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: "Dan Davison" Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 22 17:10:35 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KLJTq-0002pY-GM for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:08:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47130 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLJSx-0004jb-6k for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:07:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KLJSZ-0004hD-RN for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:07:27 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KLJSY-0004ga-8R for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:07:27 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=40135 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLJSY-0004gV-27 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:07:26 -0400 Original-Received: from ik-out-1112.google.com ([66.249.90.180]:7578) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KLJSX-00022W-PM for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:07:25 -0400 Original-Received: by ik-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c21so1349882ika.2 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:07:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=OnM+CqkXdQE8KP5WosrJeTtgy3hj7bIJPq5IatX5LVo=; b=pJHa2s4koxXiJ5WN8Q3zOmeURdBK3oGzFdJgDZyho824+/AvGnFSlMTi8zlZzMRdWy KJOoe0nyhWig/SGSftgyGHi+aaqU9PZQLESc9n0eZgimCH5R4QepgE8mM2KGxkZyHYSI xq86QplDMVom4T7GB5q3nvF8w6r31tc+0XYDY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=U6CLRM+nHWcf0PHlIvjdQqk1fSNvGqDZMrGiSJICwVGw/qukGTd8vBylG7mDOmnUmx 0PSd4XLD0y7qDGIrmJsbBcMalJrJM3wMiSATPSRMgS2JQhNTQDIwGcE/gVPb5OcOqh1t lI71fvNgmGn1kliZHYjxf80X3DrD+w3xw4xpg= Original-Received: by 10.210.41.14 with SMTP id o14mr4569218ebo.137.1216739244610; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:07:24 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.210.71.14 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:07:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20080722135656.GB7226@stats.ox.ac.uk> Content-Disposition: inline X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:55806 Archived-At: On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 15:56, Dan Davison wrote: > Oh, I don't think I agree with that sort of lowest-common-denominator > linguistic relativism at all! That sort of attitude, combined with > neutral drift over time will result in a terrible, ugly, language with > no accuracy or etymological coherency whatsoever! Not linguistic relativism, but descriptivism against prescriptivism. I'm firmly in the descriptivist side. I don't think a spoken, live language can be "ugly", and accuracy and etymological coherency are two ways of say stagnation. Juanma