From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Juanma Barranquero" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: basic question: going back to dired Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:13:23 +0200 Message-ID: References: <66d0c5e3-95d3-4c9b-a602-273375d6cf1f@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <87ljzuiayr.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216725337 9246 80.91.229.12 (22 Jul 2008 11:15:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:15:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: "Bastien Guerry" Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 22 13:16:24 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KLFqw-0001eL-5H for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:16:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57467 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLFq2-0006cg-6E for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:15:26 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KLFoA-0006YD-BB for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:13:30 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KLFo7-0006XH-0I for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:13:28 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=41773 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLFo4-0006Wl-EJ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:13:25 -0400 Original-Received: from ik-out-1112.google.com ([66.249.90.179]:34517) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KLFo4-0003LS-8I for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:13:24 -0400 Original-Received: by ik-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c21so1280303ika.2 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:13:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=PVUkZSYiQUtAV0SC+OWYkgRd7xR8u0Nogyy8x8y18uU=; b=QasLMizhEwGyX2LIYdhmbOfphoGh5pouAhjdAUe6Rz+gm5naQcyVUhqI2SwuvaDDe5 4Fp9iiOoTBfYvFSdyOTrRri/9Y9oNxTQUmqk0vK6WydIV6K6Xd0nYw9U6NhcDqMqq5ww yLjIFrTKa+o0hcqnzrP92DcgP6EiPpljsWBJU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=oh2TNr7A4Q9OoO6G2k3vexeyf1M19cgQpH8gEwX/zyhBC3A8lIcKG7Ea1sOJDK2AB8 M5iine2Z3H5Vh211VxAuKi9BROh/9QgGRi31qxZG0VHYVWJm8X985dWw97vgtHMEunaO P/sctoL1j1LQ8Z176Kgggi2DgWzHmExckGRGQ= Original-Received: by 10.210.34.2 with SMTP id h2mr2440725ebh.25.1216725203097; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:13:23 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.210.71.14 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:13:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87ljzuiayr.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> Content-Disposition: inline X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:55785 Archived-At: On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 10:23, Bastien Guerry wrote: > Or because the concept of "File" is not as central as the concept of > "buffer". But Xah Lee is not arguing against the concept. He is arguing against the terminology... > The notion of "buffer" might be emacs specific, but it's not 1980's. I don't think the notion of "buffer" is Emacs specific; as Xah Lee has said, in other environments (editors, IDEs, etc.) they exist, it's just that they exist under a different name ("workspace" being a nice alternative). Juanma