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envelope-from=drew.adams@oracle.com; helo=aserp2120.oracle.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/08/18 12:13:41 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.1-3.10 [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -63 X-Spam_score: -6.4 X-Spam_bar: ------ X-Spam_report: (-6.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-1, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:123718 Archived-At: > > Some of us think that `delete-selection-mode' > > should be enabled by default - and that this > > is long overdue. > > > > FYI, a similar debate took place for > > `transient-mark-mode'. It took _decades_ to > > finally get that turned on by default. > > > > Maybe you can't imagine t-m-mode being off by > > default. Try it. ;-) There are some good > > arguments for that behavior, as there are > > against it. >=20 > I was mostly posting to point out possible clues to OP's problem, not to > disparage `d-s-m', et al! I can see why people might want it, especially > if they're also using a lot of other software. Personally I feel that it > obscures an "Emacs approach" to editing that, when fully embraced, is > much more powerful (I also disable `transient-mark-mode'), but I would > have no interest in making that decision for other people, one way or > the other. I understand your point of view better now, since you've said that you also turn off `transient-mark-mode'. The two are related, IMO. They're not coupled, but there is some user-level relation between them.