From: Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa@Web.DE>
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: how to change file coding system
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 21:09:20 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f19626c30e6f20d4cd4a6f991003ea9c@Web.DE> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dduvej$rhi$1@schlund.de>
Am 17.08.2005 um 11:20 schrieb Martin Monsorno:
> 7) file bla*
> bla.changed-by-eclipse: UTF-8 Unicode text
> bla.created-by-eclipse: UTF-8 Unicode text
> bla.created-by-emacs: ISO-8859 text
> 8) Visiting bla.changed-by-eclipse with emacs shows "�berfall"
> 9) Visiting bla.chreated-by-eclipse with emacs shows "überfall"
>
> So we now have 3 files containing the "same" string, 2 of them claim
> to be utf-8, but they use a different encoding (2 or 3 bytes). For
> all 3 files, when opening the in emacs, buffer-file-coding-system's
> value is raw-text-unix.
I wouldn't say the files claim to be something -- it's the `file´
programme that says so, according to some rules in `magic´ files. UTF-8
contents usually cannot be distinguished from other contents -- a byte
is a byte is a byte. Some UTF-8 files contain a marker by which one can
determine, that it's UTF-8. Other markers state that the text is
written right to left with a citation left to right. Could be Eclipse
writes such a marker ...
>
>> The C-x RET commands *do not* change a buffer's (or a file's)
>> contents,
>> they just put some new skin on the buffer so that your view on the
>> buffer's (i.e. file's) contents is adapted in a certain way: you can
>> see a buffer's (or file's) whatever contents in green, blue, red,
>> yellow, cyan ... utf-8, Mac-Roman, NeXT, koi-r8, euc-jp-unix ...
>> encoding/view.
>
> I think I understood this. But this means that I can change the
> file-encoding of a file with emacs, doesn't it?
Yes. I Usually revert buffer from file with new encoding, C-x RET r
<encoding> RET and save the file in that encoding. I'd say it works
reliably!
>
> What I cite in my mails are the strings as emacs shows them to me when
> loading one of the files. So the question is, /why/ are they not
> UTF-8? Does eclipse do a wrong latin-1 to utf-8 conversion?
>
I don't know and use Eclipse. Test is with its own documentation -- and
some reliably encoded files!
--
Mit friedvollen Grüßen
Pete
"engineer: a mechanism for converting caffeine into designs"
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Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-08-12 8:34 how to change file coding system Martin Monsorno
2005-08-12 11:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.3519.1123846596.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-08-12 12:32 ` Pascal Bourguignon
2005-08-12 15:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-08-12 15:36 ` Peter Dyballa
2005-08-12 13:33 ` Martin Monsorno
2005-08-12 15:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-08-12 15:52 ` Pascal Bourguignon
2005-08-12 16:33 ` Joe Corneli
[not found] ` <mailman.3561.1123859480.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-08-16 9:22 ` Martin Monsorno
2005-08-16 11:20 ` Peter Dyballa
2005-08-17 4:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.3911.1124191758.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-08-17 9:20 ` Martin Monsorno
2005-08-17 12:22 ` Martin Monsorno
2005-08-17 19:09 ` Peter Dyballa [this message]
[not found] ` <mailman.4075.1124306087.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-08-18 8:40 ` Martin Monsorno
2005-08-18 11:37 ` Peter Dyballa
[not found] ` <mailman.4171.1124367223.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-08-19 10:20 ` Martin Monsorno
2005-08-19 13:24 ` Peter Dyballa
[not found] ` <mailman.4307.1124458248.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-08-23 9:20 ` Martin Monsorno
[not found] ` <mailman.4004.1124251989.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-08-17 9:26 ` Martin Monsorno
2005-08-17 18:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.4071.1124303238.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-08-18 8:05 ` Martin Monsorno
2005-08-19 8:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-08-23 21:23 ` Jason Rumney
2005-08-25 7:52 ` Martin Monsorno
2005-08-25 22:18 ` Peter Dyballa
[not found] ` <mailman.5086.1125044809.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-08-26 9:52 ` Martin Monsorno
2005-08-26 10:48 ` Peter Dyballa
2005-08-26 18:12 ` Kevin Rodgers
2005-08-26 18:56 ` Peter Dyballa
2005-08-26 9:59 ` Reiner Steib
2005-08-29 0:51 ` Jason Rumney
2005-08-31 8:46 ` Martin Monsorno
2005-08-31 9:18 ` Martin Monsorno
2005-08-31 9:56 ` Reiner Steib
2005-09-08 15:21 ` Martin Monsorno
2005-08-31 9:55 ` Reiner Steib
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