From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Maria Shinoto Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Japanese input in Linux environment (fcitx-mozc) Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2017 14:59:13 +0900 Message-ID: References: <834lvt9mxw.fsf@gnu.org> <20170607080206.GA3070@workstation> <83o9tz95pa.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1496988004 13736 195.159.176.226 (9 Jun 2017 06:00:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2017 06:00:04 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.1.1 To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 09 07:59:59 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dJCxj-0003Iu-6K for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Jun 2017 07:59:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52824 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dJCxo-0005f5-J7 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Jun 2017 02:00:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53915) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dJCxK-0005dh-FR for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jun 2017 01:59:35 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dJCxG-0001QL-IM for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jun 2017 01:59:34 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.135]:50795) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dJCxG-0001Pn-74 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jun 2017 01:59:30 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.0.9] ([211.19.250.68]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue004 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LwVGF-1dvaB2454J-018OLt for ; Fri, 09 Jun 2017 07:59:27 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83o9tz95pa.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Language: de-DE X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:y3qgiQcGQoTmv+ikpIYeMfYNxsaVvoBlROkYXh+oKXUl/+uKb4n qqLYFD6sVfKBbwROtH5JsPRs/9B8c7OCA5n483m8Mtsfo3qnNHSzeDxS2VdhjUU9nm7fFBW VaxHK5t2HQUAAeMZSGW9/x/co3lPqRXm32cR+9p/zJUM6Xk8kdcJsuq/KO5xF3Ec6aoxjyo wEZ7yeDQSYNJspB4+p0yQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:mIc91WyxsXk=:nkhOH6ulQQuSYWZir0ylOY CY4C2z8Eu9wHEirl5EPa9G1DQ1yp5+/5WFk2Kdkw05n2Wi+96KPkv0YjqBSjHb0hJTMw1Nvhw VWWQZS3x3ZHkW3eZlG4iJjVSDN7Rb9lxbYFn7dlVIIj+4wxxRsOZW93XkN0/FUNAOdSWz34y/ xUpEMpND1koVoYAGNpxabuQE7vOJjuDJY97lC5u5y0NtwLBKCrHQi7WUWtpvh20Q56xWgr/oU +O/FB3KcFTjEqj7I9fqbFRs/pztT5N+WYbCLsR3fb8v2D9V7wzR27kWhPavVkLogllQKe869C s3ykITDVnLWCYP0gY4MqYpE3LCIXohHZ/uFweSGgf9DN0dALrYkJn9ha23MoSZ9N2sAmDcgfz 1QcxeDMVafQKYXCpltbjBl5dzv4khV4PDYe0UnQAySoirGm2saHwzXidGvoy/hruXQ9zslLDy XG/o03PNPk0MvcMpQW3yJtSAydtAoTqnlWoNNMS9B58pKWDzmB5F1M41JGdMX1RutBsLjZIX4 +db6CI2evaqlHamIzrkTIiWLLzoeERzfp/eY8J04iz77p6jWncgyCF3UKM2mlpAPhMKZs1bID S9np124c28xtuuZCKn7/7ikhPmjeSR+pyfOaMTEL324btycN/c95BXuwWceEvKJ8rVCAyW1mK 14U78oLtFLUmo+bS9pnTwXDsyhWQ+iMckREkA5n0T5+pc4sfAXCQTU7wd56xKkb553556W3Fx PUdmtQAADk7ubIqC X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 212.227.126.135 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:113412 Archived-At: Just an update on my tests for Japanese input. I did not find a solution yet. Here are my intermediate results: - Emacs in the terminal works with Japanese (fcitx-mozc) flawlessly. - It seems to be a problem with GUI Emacs not being able to use fcitx-mozc. --> I did not test the elder combination ibus-mozc, but in winter, when I made my first test series, I had the same problem with this combination. I read all of the posts in the list, thanks to you all for your help and thoughts. Just for the records: Writing Russian of Greek or English or Spanish is essentially the same. It is different with CJK, i.e. Japanese, Chinese (Modern and Classical) and Hangeul/Korean. These languages write in two steps: input based on either sound or other varying rules and then a transformation to the correct characters, which have to be checked and confirmed by the writer. If there is a wish to test GUI Emacs with East Asian Language scripts on Linux in order to get this fixed, I will be happy to be of assistance. For the time being, I will have to step back and wait for my next holidays to go on experimenting. Maria Am 08.06.2017 um 00:29 schrieb Eli Zaretskii: >> Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2017 10:02:06 +0200 >> From: Héctor Lahoz >> >> So I think the right direction is to look at the X input method >> architecture. It seems there are some newer solutions like IBus or >> SCIM. I can't tell how or up to what extent Emacs uses any of these. >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Input_Method > > Emacs uses XIM, has been doing that for a long time. >