From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Maciej Katafiasz Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: M-! -- new or other binding ?? Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 06:25:56 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1177914386 856 80.91.229.12 (30 Apr 2007 06:26:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 06:26:26 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 30 08:26:24 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HiPL5-0001Zh-PT for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 08:26:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HiPRF-00071Q-0h for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 02:32:45 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HiPR1-00071L-LX for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 02:32:31 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HiPQz-000719-4F for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 02:32:30 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HiPQy-000716-Vs for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 02:32:29 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HiPKo-0007Dl-Qh for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 02:26:07 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1HiPKl-0006Mk-SI for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 08:26:03 +0200 Original-Received: from users.kollegienet.dk ([130.226.173.22]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 08:26:03 +0200 Original-Received: from mathrick by users.kollegienet.dk with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 08:26:03 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 18 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: users.kollegienet.dk User-Agent: pan 0.120 (Plate of Shrimp) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:43387 Archived-At: Den Sun, 29 Apr 2007 23:01:39 +0000 skrev Bill White: >> I find myself using the shell-command (M-!) a lot lately and the >> reach for all the keys (on my keyboard Alt+Shft+!) is difficult. >> Have I missed a keyboarding trick using one hand or can someone >> suggest another binding that wouldn't disturb the default key >> bindings but would still be an easier reach? > > Have you looked into training your right hand to type those modifier > keys while your left types '1'? M-^ (delete-indentation) is awkward > for my left hand so I took a day or so to train my right hand to type > the right and keys for it. Note that right Alt is not usable for that on most layouts other than pure US QWERTY (even US Intl I believe), because it's used as AltGr. Cheers, Maciej