From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kevin Rodgers Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Need an enabler for a bad habit. Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:17:12 -0700 Organization: IHS Message-ID: References: <877iygcrtx.fsf@thalassa.informatimago.com> <1162399115.2545.43.camel@CASE> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1162412447 6529 80.91.229.2 (1 Nov 2006 20:20:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 20:20:47 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 01 21:20:44 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfMZ6-0000hC-DW for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 21:20:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfMZ5-0002mo-QH for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 15:19:59 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GfMYs-0002m1-Ug for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 15:19:47 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GfMYr-0002jJ-6o for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 15:19:46 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfMYq-0002j9-OI for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 15:19:44 -0500 Original-Received: from [80.91.229.2] (helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GfMYq-0005kT-Et for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 15:19:44 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1GfMXh-0000IA-2M for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 21:18:33 +0100 Original-Received: from 207.167.42.206 ([207.167.42.206]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 21:18:33 +0100 Original-Received: from ihs_4664 by 207.167.42.206 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 21:18:33 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 37 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.167.42.206 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) In-Reply-To: <1162399115.2545.43.camel@CASE> X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:38469 Archived-At: William Case wrote: > On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 16:05 +0100, Mathias Dahl wrote: >> So, what you want is to be able to click in the echo area (the area >> below the mode line) to get the "M-x prompt" (without needing to type >> M-x), is it? > > Essentially, yes. But I have always thought what you have called the > echo area was the mini-buffer in emacs and I don't even need the "M-x > prompt". I just want my cursor blinking in the very first field/column > of the echo area. I will type the command or accelerator keys that I > need after the cursor is placed. I would expect that the cursor would > remain at the end of the command line until I push Enter. The echo area and the minibuffer share that real estate on the screen (as is explained in both the Echo Area and Minibuffer sections of the manual :-) Perhaps what you want can be provided via a minibuffer-only frame? > If you open a virtual terminal and type a couple of shell commands, you > can see what I mean. > > I want to reconfirm, I am not advocating that others may want this or > that it is something emacs should automatically do. In fact, it is a > waste of time and clicks and/or keystrokes. However, intuitively, as in > a command line on a terminal, I like to see that I have moved on to the > next command by seeing the cursor at the beginning of a cleared command > line (the command-to-be, so to speak), that I have a second or two to > think about what exactly I am going to type next; and what I type next > will be a command of some sort. > > It is a habit that comes from 30 years of being a computer user. My habits come from 23 years of being an Emacs user :-) -- Kevin