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* Changed outside customize
@ 2015-09-06  3:13 Rusi
  2015-09-06  3:58 ` Ian Zimmerman
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From: Rusi @ 2015-09-06  3:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
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I try customize-group → vc
Go to vc-handled-backends and find its "CHANGED outside customize"
Puzzled
Start emacs -Q
Its still "CHANGED outside customize"

What does this mean?


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* Re: Changed outside customize
  2015-09-06  3:13 Changed outside customize Rusi
@ 2015-09-06  3:58 ` Ian Zimmerman
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From: Ian Zimmerman @ 2015-09-06  3:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: help-gnu-emacs

On 2015-09-05 20:13 -0700, Rusi wrote:

> Start emacs -Q
> Its still "CHANGED outside customize"
> 
> What does this mean?

Do you have a desktop file?  Maybe you need --no-desktop as well?

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* Re: Changed outside customize
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@ 2015-09-06  4:14   ` Rusi
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From: Rusi @ 2015-09-06  4:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: help-gnu-emacs

On Sunday, September 6, 2015 at 9:28:57 AM UTC+5:30, Ian Zimmerman wrote:
> On 2015-09-05 20:13 -0700, Rusi wrote:
> 
> > Start emacs -Q
> > Its still "CHANGED outside customize"
> > 
> > What does this mean?

$ emacs -Q --no-desktop

Still the same


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* Re: Changed outside customize
  2015-09-06  3:13 Changed outside customize Rusi
  2015-09-06  3:58 ` Ian Zimmerman
       [not found] ` <mailman.561.1441511935.19560.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
@ 2015-09-06  4:35 ` Michael Heerdegen
  2015-09-06  4:37 ` Alexis
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From: Michael Heerdegen @ 2015-09-06  4:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: help-gnu-emacs; +Cc: Stefan Monnier

Rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> writes:

> What does this mean?

The reason seems to be that customizing the group loads "vc-mtn", and
that `setq's `vc-handled-backends' to a different value (it removes Mtn
when no Monotone found).  So what you see does always happen unless you
have Monotone installed.

CC'ing Stefan as author of "vc-mtn".


Regards,

Michael.




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* Re: Changed outside customize
  2015-09-06  3:13 Changed outside customize Rusi
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  2015-09-06  4:35 ` Michael Heerdegen
@ 2015-09-06  4:37 ` Alexis
  2015-09-06  4:41 ` Alexis
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From: Alexis @ 2015-09-06  4:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: help-gnu-emacs


Rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> writes:

> I try customize-group → vc Go to vc-handled-backends and find 
> its "CHANGED outside customize" Puzzled Start emacs -Q Its still 
> "CHANGED outside customize"
>
> What does this mean?

It means that there's some Emacs Lisp, other than a call to 
`custom-set-variables`, that's modifying the value of the 
`vc-handled-backends` variable. It could be a package you've 
installed, or it could be something in some Emacs config file 
(e.g. `.emacs`, `init.el` etc.)


Alexis.



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* Re: Changed outside customize
  2015-09-06  3:13 Changed outside customize Rusi
                   ` (3 preceding siblings ...)
  2015-09-06  4:37 ` Alexis
@ 2015-09-06  4:41 ` Alexis
  2015-09-06  4:47   ` Michael Heerdegen
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From: Alexis @ 2015-09-06  4:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: help-gnu-emacs


Rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> writes:

> I try customize-group → vc Go to vc-handled-backends and find 
> its "CHANGED outside customize" Puzzled Start emacs -Q Its still 
> "CHANGED outside customize"

Sorry, i'd not noticed that you still get that message even under 
`emacs -Q`. Given that, it might be something set up by the 
maintainers of the OS you're using - for example, they might have 
put some custom Emacs Lisp in the `site-lisp` directory. Which OS 
/ distro are you using? Are you compiling Emacs yourself, or using 
a pre-built package?


Alexis.



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* Re: Changed outside customize
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@ 2015-09-06  4:46   ` Rusi
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From: Rusi @ 2015-09-06  4:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: help-gnu-emacs

On Sunday, September 6, 2015 at 10:05:36 AM UTC+5:30, Michael Heerdegen wrote:
> Rusi  writes:
> 
> > What does this mean?
> 
> The reason seems to be that customizing the group loads "vc-mtn", and
> that `setq's `vc-handled-backends' to a different value (it removes Mtn
> when no Monotone found).  So what you see does always happen unless you
> have Monotone installed.
> 
> CC'ing Stefan as author of "vc-mtn".
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Michael.

I think you are right
customize-group vc
gives this messate
customize-variable vc-handled-backends
doesnt


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* Re: Changed outside customize
  2015-09-06  4:41 ` Alexis
@ 2015-09-06  4:47   ` Michael Heerdegen
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From: Michael Heerdegen @ 2015-09-06  4:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: help-gnu-emacs

Alexis <flexibeast@gmail.com> writes:

> Sorry, i'd not noticed that you still get that message even under
> `emacs -Q`. Given that, it might be something set up by the
> maintainers of the OS you're using - for example, they might have put
> some custom Emacs Lisp in the `site-lisp` directory. Which OS / distro
> are you using? Are you compiling Emacs yourself, or using a pre-built
> package?

It's Emacs itself - see (hope that link works, if not, my message to
this thread) 877fo4go7e.fsf@web.de




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