From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rustom Mody Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Highway Musophobia Revisited [was: Speeding up Emacs load time] Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 05:27:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <87r4ezdiiy.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <87r4ez92ry.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <87txjv7gen.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <87r4ey3jjd.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <87k3kqnup9.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <87li56mbet.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <871u6ym7xi.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1374064224 23096 80.91.229.3 (17 Jul 2013 12:30:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 12:30:24 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 17 14:30:26 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UzQsA-0002bl-3e for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 14:30:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49903 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UzQs9-0002GV-NM for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:30:21 -0400 X-Received: by 10.224.54.73 with SMTP id p9mr9261685qag.1.1374064027387; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 05:27:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.182.81.39 with SMTP id w7mr103125obx.13.1374064027262; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 05:27:07 -0700 (PDT) Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!t19no1815759qam.0!news-out.google.com!ij2ni362qab.0!nntp.google.com!t19no1949209qam.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=59.95.36.227; posting-account=mBpa7woAAAAGLEWUUKpmbxm-Quu5D8ui Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 59.95.36.227 User-Agent: G2/1.0 Injection-Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 12:27:07 +0000 Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:199940 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:92206 Archived-At: On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 5:18:42 AM UTC+5:30, Drew Adams wrote: >=20 > Any pointer device, and a mouse is one (among other things it can > be), has this feature: you look at something, anywhere, you point > to it to do something with it or to it. End of story. > This should have been clear to everyone since their first experience > with a pointer device, typically their index finger. But some will > never get it, it seems. Never. > > "Gimme that. That over there. Two feet from the door, on the right, > four feet up, against the wall. No, just to the left of that thing > ... three objects over. No, the blue one. That's it. Thanks." >=20 > Next time, try picking your nose using a keyboard. (Might make an > interesting GSOC project...) Ha! Beautiful! Just to add to what you are saying: Why are apple and samsung raking in bi= llions? Quite simply because touch-devices are to the mouse what the mouse= is to the keyboard. With a keyboard one needs to know a command-line/keybindings etc, all the m= akings of nerdiness to become a user. A mouse allows a non-nerd to become a user. It yet needs some analogizing b= etween the pointing and the pointed. Unify the two into a single touch-device and now 4-year-olds become users. Having said that I need to make a frank admission (to Emanuel): In the last 24 hours Ive gone through a struggle to upgrade my Samsung touc= h phone. The unpleasantness of poor software from samsung combined with ha= ving to get into the rude/exploitative behavior of microsoft -- at one poin= t it said my laptop is being updated and it would take 2 days!! -- makes Em= anuel's diatribes against microsoft seem gentlemanly!