From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans BKK Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Helm (and?) or Icicles (possibly using Evil) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 04:06:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <4cd079bd-9978-422f-9449-51d8fbe76485@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1398683428 31621 80.91.229.3 (28 Apr 2014 11:10:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 11:10:28 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 28 13:10:21 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WejRz-0003p2-6C for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Apr 2014 13:10:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42998 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WejRy-0004KS-Jy for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Apr 2014 07:10:18 -0400 X-Received: by 10.52.61.197 with SMTP id s5mr2902009vdr.8.1398683185278; Mon, 28 Apr 2014 04:06:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.182.191.98 with SMTP id gx2mr27688obc.22.1398683185070; Mon, 28 Apr 2014 04:06:25 -0700 (PDT) Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!ih12no617078qab.1!news-out.google.com!gi6ni629igc.0!nntp.google.com!l13no11593384iga.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help In-Reply-To: <4cd079bd-9978-422f-9449-51d8fbe76485@googlegroups.com> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=2602:306:334f:a5e0:ecbd:8ba3:1c77:9d36; posting-account=IUdGewoAAACF9WtA3i8stuVyXNk2FqaH Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 2602:306:334f:a5e0:ecbd:8ba3:1c77:9d36 User-Agent: G2/1.0 Injection-Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 11:06:25 +0000 Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:205146 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:97410 Archived-At: @Michael Heerdegen Thanks so much for that straightforward feedback. Purely functional speed in daily use isn't so important to me at the moment, nor difficulty in figuring out the package itself. However info-mode does seem critical in my approach to learning, so perhaps icicles is the first one to get familiar with. Your comment that you don't recommend either for emacs noobs - is that because it will stop me learning the stock vanilla ways of completion or simply because of the difficulties inherent in getting to know these complex packages? Or something else perhaps more relevant to my situation?