From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: RE: require basic stuff from specific packages Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 09:25:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <864m8671sy.fsf@student.uu.se> <86y45glxpy.fsf@student.uu.se> <86lh16i94u.fsf@student.uu.se> <86vb09hd10.fsf@student.uu.se> <86mvllh68i.fsf@student.uu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1468427183 32282 80.91.229.3 (13 Jul 2016 16:26:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 16:26:23 +0000 (UTC) To: Emanuel Berg , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 13 18:26:11 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bNMzB-0004vz-CS for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 18:26:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48882 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bNMzA-0000ek-8H for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 12:26:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56118) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bNMyY-0000cR-VD for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 12:25:32 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bNMyT-000737-UX for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 12:25:30 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:32284) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bNMyT-00072p-Mn for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 12:25:25 -0400 Original-Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u6DGPMSg032710 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 13 Jul 2016 16:25:22 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u6DGPLCh010671 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 13 Jul 2016 16:25:22 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0019.oracle.com (abhmp0019.oracle.com [141.146.116.25]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u6DGPJC8002367; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 16:25:20 GMT In-Reply-To: <86mvllh68i.fsf@student.uu.se> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6744.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.69 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:110814 Archived-At: > > If you are in the manual, then `i x RET'. >=20 > OK, so there is no hit for "trim" in the index. If you think there should be one: `M-x report-emacs-bug'. > > If `x' is not in the index then you will need > > to search for it: `C-s x C-s C-s...' or > > likewise, with `C-M-s', if `x' is a regexp. >=20 > The normal search? Cool, only in what > buffer, then? Buffer `*info*', in some manual. Doesn't matter what node: you can repeat it to search across nodes, throughout the book, including with wraparound. This is the way to find things that are not indexed, including particular strings of text that would never be indexed. And don't forget regexp search: `C-M-s'. This has been in Emacs since the beginning, except that in the old days it was not incremental search across nodes. You had to type `s', then a regexp and then `RET'. Then you repeated the search by just `s RET'. Incremental search is much better, of course. But the main takeaway should be that `i' is your friend. Use search only when `i' doesn't help, or within a node. One reason for this is that a (smart and knowledgeable) human being has specified the occurrences of something that _should_ be indexed. That's quite different from just searching and thus hitting _each_ occurrence.