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From: Gene <gene.sullivan@gmail.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Where is Emacs Lisp taught ?
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2018 11:40:30 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e76899e0-658f-43f2-a788-7fc0bab4ab29@googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53705d26-8a69-4453-aed9-ab72a0cd139e@googlegroups.com>

On Friday, October 26, 2018 at 8:55:13 PM UTC-4, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote:
> Gene,
> 
> Thank you for this remark. 
> I totally agree with you. 
> elisp should be considered a domain specific language and 
> not be compared to general purpose languages in general.

For me as an IS-ist 
  -- rather than should-ist or could-ist -- 
  it's simply not a point of what it `should' be compared-to 
   as we can't stop others from making silly or unflattering comparisons.

It CAN be used as a Domain Specific Language.

> 
> Hence the difficulty to find places that teach elisp, 
> since such places would rather teach general computing, 
> than domain specific computing.

Heavy Sigh.
Alas, most of the would-be `free world' employs forced-assembly day-care concentration camps tasked, in the name of `education', 
with inculcating as-if `teaching'.
So I understand how you or most would have a teaching-centered worldview.

Have you considered a learning-centered, autodidactic approach?

If you could, the answer to the gist of your question might be "Here!"

;v--- DIY lesson for self-paced, self-directed learners of Elisp as a DSL

; Assuming one is familiar with the would-be `mathematical' notion of inverses,
; yet has a mind open enough allow inverses to be performed in a 
; non-numerical domain,
; here, for your consideration, are a pair of elisp inverse functions:

; split-string & mapconcat, if and only if the same delimiter/glue is used.

; example: 

(progn
 (setq
   text-sample
    "Alas, most of the would-be `free world' employs forced-assembly day-care concentration camps tasked, in the name of `education', with inculcating as-if `teaching'."

   delimiter ; for use with split-string
     " "

   glue ; for use with mapconcat
     delimiter 

   text-sample.parts
     (split-string text-sample delimiter)

   text-sample.reconstituted
     (mapconcat (function identity)    text-sample.parts glue)

)
 (when (string=     text-sample  text-sample.reconstituted)
   "Proof of inverses"
 )

) ;progn


;^--- DIY lesson for self-paced, self-directed learners of Elisp as a DSL

Where IS elisp LEARNED?
Within.

Perhaps others would step forward with an elisp demo, tutorial, pro tip?

I'd like to believe that those of us wishing to LEARN elisp can learn from each other as well as rummaging around elisp manuals and intros in the process of self-paced, self-directed learning.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-10-27 18:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-24 15:23 Where is Emacs Lisp taught ? Jean-Christophe Helary
2018-10-24 16:02 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-24 22:24   ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-24 23:30     ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2018-10-25  3:31       ` Van L
2018-10-25 19:01     ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-26 11:43       ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-26 13:53         ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-26 15:41         ` Stefan Monnier
2018-10-27 10:50           ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-11-14 23:27     ` Drew Adams
2018-11-15  3:08       ` Stefan Monnier
2018-11-15  4:47         ` Drew Adams
2018-11-15  8:04         ` tomas
2018-11-15 20:01         ` Bob Proulx
     [not found]     ` <mailman.4061.1542238084.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-11-17 15:41       ` Gene
2018-11-17 17:39         ` Java-mode Debug question ? Francis Belliveau
2018-11-17 17:51           ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-11-18 12:34             ` Francis Belliveau
2018-11-18 15:32               ` Francis Belliveau
2018-11-27  1:06             ` Problem with CC mode hooks and font-locking Francis Belliveau
2018-11-27  2:38               ` Stefan Monnier
2018-11-30 21:50                 ` Francis Belliveau
2018-12-01  7:55                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-01 14:33                     ` Francis Belliveau
2019-02-22  4:14         ` Where is Emacs Lisp taught ? Van L
     [not found] ` <mailman.2668.1540396976.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-26 18:05   ` Gene
2018-10-27  0:54     ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2018-10-27 17:27       ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-28  0:27       ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-28  1:16         ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2018-10-28  2:47           ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-28  7:04             ` Alan E. Davis
2018-10-28  7:28               ` Van L
2018-10-28 17:07               ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]             ` <mailman.2937.1540710329.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-28 17:03               ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-28 17:14                 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-30 19:30               ` Gene
2018-10-30 19:46                 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-10-30 20:33                   ` Nick Dokos
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.3129.1540931601.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-31 11:20                     ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.3123.1540928817.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-30 20:28                   ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-30 20:32                     ` Drew Adams
2018-10-31  2:14                     ` Gmane Autoauthorizer (was: Re: Where is Emacs Lisp taught ?) Nuno Silva
2018-10-31 11:23                       ` Emanuel Berg
2018-11-02  1:33                         ` Gmane Autoauthorizer Nuno Silva
2018-11-02  8:38                           ` Emanuel Berg
2018-11-03 12:41                             ` Nuno Silva
2018-11-03 15:24                               ` Emanuel Berg
2018-11-04 21:25                                 ` Nuno Silva
2018-11-05 20:51                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2018-11-01 13:02                       ` Gmane Autoauthorizer (was: Re: Where is Emacs Lisp taught ?) Emanuel Berg
2018-11-01 13:07                         ` Emanuel Berg
2018-11-02  1:23                           ` Gmane Autoauthorizer Nuno Silva
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.3128.1540931562.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-31 11:19                       ` Where is Emacs Lisp taught ? Emanuel Berg
2018-10-31 14:22                         ` Drew Adams
     [not found]                         ` <mailman.3163.1540995758.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-31 16:01                           ` Emanuel Berg
2018-11-09  9:16                             ` Van L
     [not found]                             ` <mailman.3710.1541755025.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-11-10 17:02                               ` Gene
2018-11-04 12:17                         ` Daniel Nemenyi
     [not found]         ` <mailman.2929.1540689371.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-28  2:11           ` Gene
2018-10-28  2:21             ` Jean-Christophe Helary
     [not found]             ` <mailman.2933.1540693317.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-30 17:35               ` Gene
2018-10-27 18:40     ` Gene [this message]
2018-10-27 19:27       ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-28  0:52       ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-28  1:11       ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2018-10-28  0:19     ` Garreau, Alexandre
     [not found]     ` <mailman.2923.1540686004.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-30 17:22       ` Gene
2018-10-31  3:54         ` Van L
2018-10-31 10:42         ` Eric S Fraga
     [not found]         ` <mailman.3146.1540958071.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-11-02 19:34           ` Gene
2018-11-02 20:45             ` Gene

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