From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Baby Emacs? Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:33:35 +0200 Message-ID: References: <28c656e20907311422w45b4c942q1ed46ad93829b230@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1249076053 7331 80.91.229.12 (31 Jul 2009 21:34:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:34:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, kj To: B Smith-Mannschott Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 31 23:34:06 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MWzjp-0004ux-IM for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:34:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40038 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MWzjo-0000UQ-IZ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:34:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MWzjR-0000To-GV for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:33:41 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MWzjM-0000LZ-UR for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:33:41 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=34576 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MWzjM-0000LQ-S2 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:33:36 -0400 Original-Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.240]:52418) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MWzjL-0001zm-Qe for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:33:36 -0400 Original-Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b6so1979360ana.21 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:33:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=iM+WfNuXdzTI87WgDyumcjaxKJuNKWVQnHV5KJFG+HU=; b=kUuO3dYKiQAlIHG8u6CsJOIYYUchyp9NKPtUngQxojE/D00UcGqyX7vR8WAkbOf2UK tJcpK1LGaav1+vXyAvFSKxlVOVlx3IH7ADLed78+efLQ9vHrmaduhD0nuSRfkQ6spt3/ rocZ8NCFQaucDzRnnoEFd89jNr2ov8W1NHcMM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=NTYApJS4WpoqC2fPsqW7N6O1qjgCKh1b02yi7OBWbO5WINIhcWhXU0NSP5yx2pskjE YyetlSRu2GRzTIqeSZWWxY2+UtRf/VMm3/iKvS+Cgk7IHN4e0NW5osiruJHwAzSFy6YX NkcGG2/gh5HiopAAeokSrEvLsfWPU1vX1j32U= Original-Received: by 10.100.138.7 with SMTP id l7mr4062665and.141.1249076015261; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:33:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <28c656e20907311422w45b4c942q1ed46ad93829b230@mail.gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:66590 Archived-At: On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:22 PM, B Smith-Mannschott wrote: > On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 19:51, kj wrote: >> >> >> >> I am teaching programming to a few co-workers (research biologists). >> Most of them want some recommendation for a text editor. =C2=A0Of course= , >> I recommend to them Emacs, but I would prefer to recommend a simpler >> version of Emacs, one with fewer features, and also fewer ways to >> get confused. =C2=A0Is there such a thing? >> >> (A different co-worker suggested nano, but it does not look >> sufficiently Emacs-like to me.) >> > > Zile (http://www.gnu.org/software/zile/) is a pretty good ersatz > emacs. It's small and quick to start. I use it for quick and simple > edits. But Emacs starts in about 1 sec on my old pc if I do "emacs -Q". Perhaps Zile is quicker and I do not know how fast these people are ... ;-)