From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Including content from EmacsWiki in Emacs Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 00:11:09 +0100 Message-ID: References: <251d6b72-b760-411b-8c35-83a7788e2491@u75g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <87hc6z6nmp.fsf@gmail.com> <200810302325.m9UNP7JI012589@zogzog.maillard.mobi> <86abcfrydf.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87iqr1qnni.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <877i7gpph5.fsf_-_@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <87k5bgo62g.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1226017098 8460 80.91.229.12 (7 Nov 2008 00:18:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 00:18:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: "Reiner Steib" Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 07 01:19:21 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KyF4K-0000PY-R2 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 01:19:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32974 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KyF3D-0007h2-6R for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:18:11 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KyF2r-0007fB-7L for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:17:49 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KyF2p-0007ee-RE for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:17:48 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=37525 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KyF2p-0007eb-LE for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:17:47 -0500 Original-Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.191]:50021) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KyE0N-0006wL-9Q for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 18:11:11 -0500 Original-Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c7so550358nfi.26 for ; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:11:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=p8AR7mzK0ryWjMuc+9CoV8VWiOqzrkksLrS+VWb/pwE=; b=sGA9YLGEiWbJ/T87wiLY9E/Xi8vDF6s621JCD22vK5MEwbjDcUo6gGTZ6i5545GTcG yDAQjuczKmNsUER4f7xsHV2cw/p5IkXqExHArM3uWNJPRizuswNWjK0IPDN9JcyfFVUA BEgsfsQQFcpcD3ChrAc7ACWQPVmf7GPTmECkU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=WOx59BJ4to0KqVqNO18O5j1dfhwRzH4K2g6hNqnMeH9FRobnNBq1n86qfy+cQ/MEIr Dla0wzrooGfm26S3DwaAGaEfF2m85M0FadJ0EfwCuG+v4JA1tH8g54YgLGEoKuT35bfk RTlAl13PcRbxkrdrAIaxR4DOjie2bExP9iyoE= Original-Received: by 10.86.79.19 with SMTP id c19mr3233892fgb.26.1226013069353; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:11:09 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.86.65.3 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 15:11:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87k5bgo62g.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> Content-Disposition: inline X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:59535 Archived-At: On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Reiner Steib wrote: > On Thu, Nov 06 2008, Lennart Borgman wrote: > >> On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 9:29 PM, Reiner Steib wrote: >>>>> As we don't have copyright assignments for the content on EmacsWiki, >>>>> we cannot do this. [...] >>>> >>>> I am not sure that is important since if something on EmacsWiki is to >>>> be included in Emacs it needs to be rewritten to fit into Emacs >>>> manual. >>> >>> AFAIK, that doesn't matter. >> >> What do you mean? > > In general[1], in order to include non-trivial content[2] in Emacs, > the author has to assign the copyright to the FSF. If we don't have > an assignment, we cannot include it. > > I don't know what kind of rewriting your thinking about. If it's only > adding texinfo markup and minor changes, then I think we still need an > assignment from the original author.[3] Thanks, I see. My idea was to let someone who have signed FSF papers for contributing to Emacs do the rewriting. I meant a complete rewrite using the ideas from the EmacsWiki pages, but not directly the content itself.