From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: adrians Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Help for eclipse Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:57:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <9bc9b6ed-e5c8-4c0c-949e-8bf90b096d5b@googlegroups.com> <87oay0721f.fsf@debian.uxu> <2cfe5201-407a-4f80-a6de-6ff3dc7d4382@googlegroups.com> <126342df-87f3-4bb6-9eb5-5510dfe8c28b@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1402628426 26372 80.91.229.3 (13 Jun 2014 03:00:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 03:00:26 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 13 05:00:20 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WvHj1-0001oI-M9 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2014 05:00:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56466 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WvHj1-0001Uu-9P for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 23:00:19 -0400 X-Received: by 10.182.105.230 with SMTP id gp6mr6194275obb.18.1402628256115; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:57:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.47.235 with SMTP id m98mr71qga.37.1402628256078; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:57:36 -0700 (PDT) Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!a13no166245igq.0!news-out.google.com!q9ni6037qaj.0!nntp.google.com!i13no245318qae.1!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help In-Reply-To: <126342df-87f3-4bb6-9eb5-5510dfe8c28b@googlegroups.com> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=74.200.7.145; posting-account=rPDTcAoAAAD0N_Y8rzOXFJGNoUEwqIAb Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 74.200.7.145 User-Agent: G2/1.0 Injection-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 02:57:36 +0000 Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:205928 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:98198 Archived-At: On Thursday, June 12, 2014 10:12:34 PM UTC-4, Rusi wrote: > On Wednesday, June 11, 2014 8:25:52 AM UTC+5:30, adrians wrote: > > > > > Emanuel, so based on your extensive experience with Eclipse it's a > > > total pain? Right. I can tell you from having used if for a heck of > > > a lot longer than you used it for that, configured with the proper > > > settings, it can be significantly snappier than Emacs - at least > > > under Windows. In fact the general clunkiness of Emacs' scrolling > > > still bothers the heck out of me. As for which of these two > > > environments is easier to get accustomed to for someone new to them, > > > please don't suggest that it's Emacs. For years now, Eclipse has had > > > straightforward UI discoverability through the use of Ctrl-3 which > > > allows you to search through all commands, views, menus, etc., from > > > one spot. > > > > Thanks Adrians for Ctrl-3. > > > > I always have the impression that eclipse is a very powerful system. > > And get completely lost finding my way round. > > > > Do you have any suggestions for a beginner? Where/how to find help? > > My main current interest is html-css linkage Rusi, feel free to contact me directly so that we don't spam this group with off-topic subjects.