From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Samuel Banya" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Would there be a drawback of using the same graphical toolkit on every platform? 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Curious, do you have any of your dotfiles anywhere? Was always curious to maybe switch to a BSD but haven't found one that had a decent installer. Would be neat to check out your dotfiles if you have any. Thanks, Sam On Sat, Feb 19, 2022, at 12:51 PM, Jean Louis wrote: > * Eli Zaretskii [2022-02-19 10:34]: > > > Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2022 20:59:38 +0000 > > > From: emacsq via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor > > > > > > Just wondering if a free toolkit like Gtk supports multiple platforms out of the box then would it make sense to use the same GTK-based code on every graphical platform? So using the same toolkit for everything graphics, instead of implementing features for windows, linux, etc. separately? > > > > Emacs currentl;y supports building with GTK only on GNU and Unix > > systems. > > That means on Unix-like systems. It is better expressed that way. GNU > is Not Unix, true, though it is very much Unix-like, such systems are > mentioned as Unices if I remember well. > > GNU is Unix-like and there are variations, there is also GNU with > FreeBSD kernel, though I don't know if there are still users. GNU with > Hurd kernel is Unix like, and GNU with Linux is also so much Unix like > system. > > GNU is not Unix because it is free software and also free not to > follow constraints and standards -- though my impression is that it > does follow it. > > I feel fine with DragonFlyBSD and GNU/Linux-libre systems, as user I > do not see differences, majority of basic command line tools are more > or less same. I do prefer GNU tools for reasons of --help and > --version and some consistency. > > Though when I use Haiku, that is something totally different, and > proprietary Windoze systems which I encounter at other people's > computers look rather too simple as there is no much options to change > how desktop looks like, and one is forced to use mouse so much by many > applications. > > Jean > > Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: > https://www.fsf.org/campaigns > > In support of Richard M. Stallman > https://stallmansupport.org/ > >