From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: ken Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: hork point in ~/.emacs: -Q and --debug outputs in terminal & *Messages* Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 08:08:43 -0400 Message-ID: References: <8463a064-a5b3-23c6-1589-a6cc5f899b95@mousecar.com> <83o8mvyqeg.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: gebser@mousecar.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18592"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.11.0 To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 28 14:09:09 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kBdBt-0004lm-0Q for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2020 14:09:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42564 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kBdBs-0000RQ-2o for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2020 08:09:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52102) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kBdBX-0000RK-6p for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2020 08:08:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.perfora.net ([74.208.4.197]:33849) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kBdBV-0007oJ-IA for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2020 08:08:46 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.0.17] ([96.27.75.237]) by mrelay.perfora.net (mreueus004 [74.208.5.2]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1Mzh89-1kXgBG3ikL-00vfpJ for ; Fri, 28 Aug 2020 14:08:44 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83o8mvyqeg.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Language: en-US X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:i/8+HtVk7K78qZ3koAiF2KuWhtHAdRh8cRQ7UpxGkSO81EdBodJ FPckhp9579pYqGSocKublPRa6KfE8M1V5lZ3HrtWzj1pCKC4Fxj4BJYJfws2Q7/BZkvhJPt NKH7c5u4X4d6rLLmfl2BvfWhlfPEft5XBSLX1uzTNZOFQ11t3gmtmqn1VOo6q3lcHXmREZy BF0kK1D7rMoO6rmiGIbyQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:M/itaTMZ/S0=:hOeEKxu3FtRnmSTQCfCTxr yyn7jnp23yi3JSJENC4W/vn0HdfexPemWZ/n/hxStmE7Q9EmcFlOGK6fsAdGzbkxakrkbSzQw vjxYfJVUdYaC+XppmPZUp3KwCL6MQz5NwTh9vvmb7wrM/7hmyDd0NS2PX+gsxhnzlxnLT9VZN kElbBVSkM++700btokphxGT2xU2CtkjK3h5u1QdJOi17SDnqA5LaeNmhLzqqjiYK+17R71BYh qPiUaUept9KJJ/go4FsizvjmRaGPqg46BW5bdmrAFz7iw1bNuHe+kctxG3yZhj4SS16N/KRW5 1pKHHHYr5Er3H3FkNxI9TIgjZ/dvbMZLZjGTY7UHac5LXpRe4OCWVJSH0Or+Dzzp7YuAg1AqW eN8Hlbi+dPAH3w7bd5KlK4oFszSpeWti6bRaV9sn5USoFYfzdK2oS9AesT1kDmzU0U9qaQtm5 6U+3xvC4S399wbq+T7qVuoZlFiAnA/g7gzztOxy/h4wQAkcWRd6RHxyLbBaA822LOETZSuzHP gCf84vTbVqyxmarXwiB5u9JD6WklMzTM+AcsU/J2uBRy88rkFXUNF5IfdBm31DBs5ttxyalMe IehHm5KGY3+h8OD4DLMk+7RJ8fQHaRppcK2HSTouNzZWSRDnh064pmZ9zhKYEdflfDLxvOy7R SnMlHYeVXS8ITgYGiJvB1NZnrl1KmsbTdAinc0yuqJ514TnCMCz1+P22t7KmiVHfd5SZDJAr4 8Dt9aO5GgECs58Pu8UZEZYOLVnmRE3+39dNc4bLgFtVKB5PFMmDpZdUonkrK0nn/tldpv9ol Received-SPF: none client-ip=74.208.4.197; envelope-from=gebser@mousecar.com; helo=mout.perfora.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/08/28 06:07:20 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -26 X-Spam_score: -2.7 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.809, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:123823 Archived-At: On 8/28/20 7:13 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: ken >> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 06:07:19 -0400 >> >> Output in terminal from "emacs -Q" : >> >> Warning: game dir '/var/games/emacs': Permission denied >> Loading loadup.el (source)... >> dump mode: nil > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > This indicates that Emacs cannot find the emacs.pdmp file. You should > fix this problem before you continue investigating any further > problems, because when Emacs doesn't find its dump file, all kinds of > weird problems can happen. So everything you said until now is more > or less unimportant, until you resolve the problem with the emacs.pdmp > file. Thanks, but I know nothing at all about this file, never heard of it.  Looking for it: "locate emacs.pdmp" returns nothing. "rpm -ql emacs|grep emacs.pdmp" returns nothing. So it appears I don't have it and never did. Are these permissions etc. correct? # ls -ld /var/games/emacs drwxrwx--- 1 games games 50 Aug 16 15:50 /var/games/emacs