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* EVIL Matrox Graphics Inc , STEALS MGA Settings/VIRTUAL DESKTOP from Windows 98, 2000 etc
@ 2005-01-03  5:08 rogerclive
  2005-01-03  5:14 ` Mxsmanic
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  0 siblings, 6 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: rogerclive @ 2005-01-03  5:08 UTC (permalink / raw)


Perhaps, there is no bigger sleazy company in the entire Maple Republic
( Canada ) than Matrox Graphics Inc.

I paid $100+ through my nose circa 1999 for Matrox Millenium II and
Mystique.

It works well under NT4.0 however, a month ago I upgraded to Win 98.
Guess what?

The main feature in the Matrox Inc Video cards was their desktop, and
the essence
was in "MGA Settings" . Here you could make a virtual desktop four
times or more
than your monitor area. then using a touchpad with proper acceleration
you could
pan from one end to the other by a single stroke on your touch pad. It
was extremely
helpful and allowed you to do work on a small cheap monitor or LCD with
the comfort
of a large screen.

Guess what this evil master-mind did ? In the software for Win 98, Win
2K and perhaps other versions, it downgraded its desktop in a clearly
identifiable
and treacherous way. It added a whole bunch of non-sequitor bells and
whistles
and robbed its customers of the jewel. The virtual desktop.

What irritated me most about these crooked and evil canadians is that
they lecture
the whole world about environmentalism and environment. What this
criminally evil
company has done is: It has created pollution worth $150 or so, more
exactly
the cost/selling price of the card for every card that will be thrown
away
and destroyed because they stole away the main module and compiled the
desktop
software without it.

I have put this analysis over the months. I ask every potential
customer of their
cards to ask this company if they are going to play this
evil-intentioned and
thinly disguised game with all their cards. I urge you to refuse of
bycott their
products ... till they rectify their negative sum business strategy.

Matrox must have sold atleast 200,000 such cards. We are talking about
20 million dollars worth of pollution and destruction.

A deceived Customer

The Essential question:
Cant this company recompile the old driver software which suppored
virtual desktop or the "MGA Settings" feature (which allowed you to
change the size of view area and displayed area independently) with the
libraries of later microsoft operating systems ?

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* Re: EVIL Matrox Graphics Inc , STEALS MGA Settings/VIRTUAL DESKTOP from Windows 98, 2000 etc
  2005-01-03  5:08 EVIL Matrox Graphics Inc , STEALS MGA Settings/VIRTUAL DESKTOP from Windows 98, 2000 etc rogerclive
@ 2005-01-03  5:14 ` Mxsmanic
  2005-01-03  5:23   ` Shan
  2005-01-03  6:33 ` J. Clarke
                   ` (4 subsequent siblings)
  5 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Mxsmanic @ 2005-01-03  5:14 UTC (permalink / raw)


rogerclive@rock.com writes:

> The main feature in the Matrox Inc Video cards was their desktop ...

Actually the main feature of their cards is the hardware.  The desktop
is a useless gadget, and I never even bother to install it.

> Guess what this evil master-mind did ? In the software for Win 98, Win
> 2K and perhaps other versions, it downgraded its desktop in a clearly
> identifiable and treacherous way. It added a whole bunch of
> non-sequitor bells and whistles and robbed its customers of the
> jewel. The virtual desktop.

Everything except the driver itself is _already_ a "bell and whistle,"
so why complain?

The safe way to use video cards is to install nothing except the correct
driver.  This is often true for most other types of hardware as well.
Using proprietary software provided by a hardware company is an
invitation to trouble, in part because it locks you into a specific
environment and configuration, and in part because the software provided
by hardware companies is often very poorly written.  It's a wonder if
the drivers work, much less the rest.

> It has created pollution worth $150 or so, more exactly
> the cost/selling price of the card for every card that will be thrown
> away and destroyed because they stole away the main module and compiled the
> desktop software without it.

Most people don't care about the extra gadgets and just buy the cards
for the hardware.

> Matrox must have sold atleast 200,000 such cards.

And perhaps 20 customers actually use their gadget software with the
cards.

-- 
Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly.

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* Re: EVIL Matrox Graphics Inc , STEALS MGA Settings/VIRTUAL DESKTOP from Windows 98, 2000 etc
  2005-01-03  5:14 ` Mxsmanic
@ 2005-01-03  5:23   ` Shan
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Shan @ 2005-01-03  5:23 UTC (permalink / raw)


Mxsmanic wrote:
> rogerclive@rock.com writes:
>
> > The main feature in the Matrox Inc Video cards was their desktop
...
>
> Actually the main feature of their cards is the hardware.  The
desktop
> is a useless gadget, and I never even bother to install it.
>
> > Guess what this evil master-mind did ? In the software for Win 98,
Win
> > 2K and perhaps other versions, it downgraded its desktop in a
clearly
> > identifiable and treacherous way. It added a whole bunch of
> > non-sequitor bells and whistles and robbed its customers of the
> > jewel. The virtual desktop.
>
> Everything except the driver itself is _already_ a "bell and
whistle,"
> so why complain?
>
> The safe way to use video cards is to install nothing except the
correct
> driver.  This is often true for most other types of hardware as well.
> Using proprietary software provided by a hardware company is an
> invitation to trouble, in part because it locks you into a specific
> environment and configuration, and in part because the software
provided
> by hardware companies is often very poorly written.  It's a wonder if
> the drivers work, much less the rest.
>
> > It has created pollution worth $150 or so, more exactly
> > the cost/selling price of the card for every card that will be
thrown
> > away and destroyed because they stole away the main module and
compiled the
> > desktop software without it.
>
> Most people don't care about the extra gadgets and just buy the cards
> for the hardware.
>
> > Matrox must have sold atleast 200,000 such cards.
>
> And perhaps 20 customers actually use their gadget software with the
> cards.
>
> --
> Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me
directly.


Anyway this totally Off-topic on comp.lang.c++

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* Re: EVIL Matrox Graphics Inc , STEALS MGA Settings/VIRTUAL DESKTOP from Windows 98, 2000 etc
  2005-01-03  5:08 EVIL Matrox Graphics Inc , STEALS MGA Settings/VIRTUAL DESKTOP from Windows 98, 2000 etc rogerclive
  2005-01-03  5:14 ` Mxsmanic
@ 2005-01-03  6:33 ` J. Clarke
  2005-01-03 16:22 ` daytripper
                   ` (3 subsequent siblings)
  5 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: J. Clarke @ 2005-01-03  6:33 UTC (permalink / raw)


rogerclive@rock.com wrote:

> Perhaps, there is no bigger sleazy company in the entire Maple Republic
> ( Canada ) than Matrox Graphics Inc.
> 
> I paid $100+ through my nose circa 1999 for Matrox Millenium II and
> Mystique.
> 
> It works well under NT4.0 however, a month ago I upgraded to Win 98.
> Guess what?
> 
> The main feature in the Matrox Inc Video cards was their desktop, and
> the essence
> was in "MGA Settings" . Here you could make a virtual desktop four
> times or more
> than your monitor area. then using a touchpad with proper acceleration
> you could
> pan from one end to the other by a single stroke on your touch pad. It
> was extremely
> helpful and allowed you to do work on a small cheap monitor or LCD with
> the comfort
> of a large screen.
> 
> Guess what this evil master-mind did ? In the software for Win 98, Win
> 2K and perhaps other versions, it downgraded its desktop in a clearly
> identifiable
> and treacherous way. It added a whole bunch of non-sequitor bells and
> whistles
> and robbed its customers of the jewel. The virtual desktop.
> 
> What irritated me most about these crooked and evil canadians is that
> they lecture
> the whole world about environmentalism and environment. What this
> criminally evil
> company has done is: It has created pollution worth $150 or so, more
> exactly
> the cost/selling price of the card for every card that will be thrown
> away
> and destroyed because they stole away the main module and compiled the
> desktop
> software without it.
> 
> I have put this analysis over the months. I ask every potential
> customer of their
> cards to ask this company if they are going to play this
> evil-intentioned and
> thinly disguised game with all their cards. I urge you to refuse of
> bycott their
> products ... till they rectify their negative sum business strategy.
> 
> Matrox must have sold atleast 200,000 such cards. We are talking about
> 20 million dollars worth of pollution and destruction.
> 
> A deceived Customer
> 
> The Essential question:
> Cant this company recompile the old driver software which suppored
> virtual desktop or the "MGA Settings" feature (which allowed you to
> change the size of view area and displayed area independently) with the
> libraries of later microsoft operating systems ?

What are you on about?  I've got virtual desktop working fine on Windows 98
and Windows 2000.

-- 
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

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* Re: EVIL Matrox Graphics Inc , STEALS MGA Settings/VIRTUAL DESKTOP from Windows 98, 2000 etc
  2005-01-03  5:08 EVIL Matrox Graphics Inc , STEALS MGA Settings/VIRTUAL DESKTOP from Windows 98, 2000 etc rogerclive
  2005-01-03  5:14 ` Mxsmanic
  2005-01-03  6:33 ` J. Clarke
@ 2005-01-03 16:22 ` daytripper
  2005-01-03 20:01 ` Stefan Monnier
                   ` (2 subsequent siblings)
  5 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: daytripper @ 2005-01-03 16:22 UTC (permalink / raw)


On 2 Jan 2005 21:08:15 -0800, rogerclive@rock.com mindlessly spewed:
["content" snipped and flushed]

you "upgraded" from NT4 to Windows98? 

lmao! what a maroon!

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* Re: EVIL Matrox Graphics Inc , STEALS MGA Settings/VIRTUAL DESKTOP from Windows 98, 2000 etc
  2005-01-03  5:08 EVIL Matrox Graphics Inc , STEALS MGA Settings/VIRTUAL DESKTOP from Windows 98, 2000 etc rogerclive
                   ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2005-01-03 16:22 ` daytripper
@ 2005-01-03 20:01 ` Stefan Monnier
  2005-01-04  0:38 ` Jonathan Mcdougall
  2005-01-04  1:10 ` KevinM
  5 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2005-01-03 20:01 UTC (permalink / raw)


> I paid $100+ through my nose circa 1999 for Matrox Millenium II and
> Mystique.

> It works well under NT4.0 however, a month ago I upgraded to Win 98.
> Guess what?

Why don't you upgrade to GNU/Linux instead?
Millenium II is very well supported there.


        Stefan

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* Re: EVIL Matrox Graphics Inc , STEALS MGA Settings/VIRTUAL DESKTOP from Windows 98, 2000 etc
  2005-01-03  5:08 EVIL Matrox Graphics Inc , STEALS MGA Settings/VIRTUAL DESKTOP from Windows 98, 2000 etc rogerclive
                   ` (3 preceding siblings ...)
  2005-01-03 20:01 ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2005-01-04  0:38 ` Jonathan Mcdougall
  2005-01-04  1:10 ` KevinM
  5 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Jonathan Mcdougall @ 2005-01-04  0:38 UTC (permalink / raw)


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<rogerclive@rock.com> a écrit dans le message de news: 
1104728895.143031.21070@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

I don't know about the other groups, but could you remove c.l.c++ from the 
follow-ups?

Thanks,


Jonathan

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* Re: EVIL Matrox Graphics Inc , STEALS MGA Settings/VIRTUAL DESKTOP from Windows 98, 2000 etc
  2005-01-03  5:08 EVIL Matrox Graphics Inc , STEALS MGA Settings/VIRTUAL DESKTOP from Windows 98, 2000 etc rogerclive
                   ` (4 preceding siblings ...)
  2005-01-04  0:38 ` Jonathan Mcdougall
@ 2005-01-04  1:10 ` KevinM
  5 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: KevinM @ 2005-01-04  1:10 UTC (permalink / raw)


<rogerclive@rock.com> wrote in message
news:1104728895.143031.21070@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> It works well under NT4.0 however, a month ago I upgraded to Win 98.

Ummmm...dood...that's no upgrade. If you want the nasty, evil, desktop
software to work again, you should "downgade" back to NT.

Kev

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