where to get the newest version of pcl-cvs ?

where to get the newest version of pcl-cvs ?

[Martin Jost]

Hello,

newer versions of cvs (e.g. 1.12.9) break pcl-cvs (the version coming with emacs 21.2) at least partly.
I tried to get hold of a newer version of pcl-cvs but failed.
- All my old bookmarks are too old or dead
- All the pointers I could find in pcl-cvs or cvs itself were either too old or didn't worked at all.
- cvshome und cvs-bubbles also brought up only too old info (or didn't work like the FAQ-O-Matic)
- The project on sourceforge is simply empty
- Googling didn't bring up a place to download (but many hits on my keywords)

So: Where are the up to date versions of pcl-cvs kept ?

TIA

Martin

Re: where to get the newest version of pcl-cvs ?

[Greg A. Woods]

[ On Wednesday, October 13, 2004 at 14:36:17 (+0200), Martin Jost wrote: ]
> Subject: where to get the newest version of pcl-cvs ?
>
> newer versions of cvs (e.g. 1.12.9) break pcl-cvs (the version coming with emacs 21.2) at least partly.
> I tried to get hold of a newer version of pcl-cvs but failed.

Did you try getting a newer version of Emacs?  The latest version of GNU
Emacs is 21.3, available since March 24, 2003, and it still includes
PCL-CVS as part of the base elisp applications.

I haven't had any trouble with it, but I'm not sure I'm using the latest
versions of CVS.   :-)

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Re: where to get the newest version of pcl-cvs ?

[Stefan Monnier]

> So: Where are the up to date versions of pcl-cvs kept ?

In Emacs's CVS repository.
As for the 1.12.9 problem, it's not really fixed there, because the problem
is that the commit messages have become ambiguous and there's nothing
PCL-CVS can do about it, really.  Hopefully it'll get fixed in 1.12.10.


        Stefan

Re: where to get the newest version of pcl-cvs ?

[Martin Jost]

Hello,

here, just some notes on the answers I got (all public as answers into news)

"Stefan Monnier" <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:jwvzn2qfh8z.fsf-monnier+gnu.emacs.help@gnu.org...
> > So: Where are the up to date versions of pcl-cvs kept ?
> 
> In Emacs's CVS repository.
> As for the 1.12.9 problem, it's not really fixed there, because the problem
> is that the commit messages have become ambiguous and there's nothing
> PCL-CVS can do about it, really.  Hopefully it'll get fixed in 1.12.10.

Thanks ! (Actually twice !)
So now I know where to look for the bleeding edge and I also know that it will just now _not_ fix my problem.
And: yes I've even found a thread discussing this problem regarding cvs. But I've assumed, that it might be already fixed (I didn't find a cvs version number mentioned in the part of the thread I saw)

"Greg A. Woods" <woods@weird.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:mailman.3047.1097683782.2017.info-cvs@gnu.org...
> Did you try getting a newer version of Emacs?  The latest version of GNU
> Emacs is 21.3, available since March 24, 2003, and it still includes
> PCL-CVS as part of the base elisp applications.

I switched back from 21.3 to 21.2 because I got random crashes of 21.3 (on HPUX 10.20) with emacs dying with a SIGALARM. But I never was able to reproduce the problem, so a bug report seemed rather useless.
 
> I haven't had any trouble with it, but I'm not sure I'm using the latest versions of CVS.   :-)
 
I tried 1.12.9 out of curiosity. This one has a new format for the start of the hook-scripts. So this was problem 1 to fix.
Afterwards pcl-cvs got problems. But now I've already invested (some) time and wanted to solve this.
Unfortunately this won't work at the moment, so I went back to 1.11.17.


"Mark D. Baushke" <mdb@cvshome.org> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:mailman.3099.1097706102.2017.info-cvs@gnu.org...
> Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
> 
> > As for the 1.12.9 problem, it's not really fixed there, because the problem
> > is that the commit messages have become ambiguous and there's nothing
> > PCL-CVS can do about it, really.  Hopefully it'll get fixed in 1.12.10.
> 
> cvs 1.12.10 will have the relative pathname on the line that lists the
> 
>     /full/repository/cvsroot/ path/to/the/file,v  <-- to/the/file
>     new revision: 3.1.2.1; previous revision: 3.1
> 
> instead of the cvs 1.11.x behavior of
 [...]
> Maybe if we all ask nicely Stefan can make a new release of pcl-cvs
> available that will work with cvs 1.12.10...

I'm looking forward to the new version of cvs and a new pcl-cvs matching it !

Thanks a lot to everybody who answered

Martin