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From: Raffaele Ricciardi <rfflrccrd@gmail.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Elisp addiction not as bad in light of Linux forkoholism
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2014 15:50:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ce61ttF3bvvU1@mid.individual.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <873891sgaw.fsf@debian.uxu>

On 30/11/14 01:06, Emanuel Berg wrote:
> The old Emacs pros sometimes like to say you shouldn't
> spend too much time configuring Emacs, you shouldn't
> get stuck in that, it is ultimately impractical, etc.

The problem is that old Emacs pros don't explain the Emacs work-flow to 
novices and therefore novices are left to "connect the dots" on their 
own.  When novices fail to connect some dots, they resort to configure 
Emacs to achieve some goals in a way that they know.  Moreover, in my 
experience, vanilla Emacs lacks many convenient commands (or at least 
some efficient key bindings for available convenient commands) and some 
standard commands feel counterintuitive.  I understand that this is for 
historical reasons, and I am not complaining about it, but nonetheless 
this is the way it is.  Hence the need to spend much time configuring Emacs.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-12-02 14:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-30  0:06 Elisp addiction not as bad in light of Linux forkoholism Emanuel Berg
2014-11-30  1:22 ` Filipp Gunbin
     [not found] ` <mailman.14979.1417310548.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-11-30  1:49   ` Emanuel Berg
2014-12-01 12:17     ` Filipp Gunbin
     [not found]     ` <mailman.15048.1417436297.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-12-12  2:07       ` Emanuel Berg
2014-11-30  5:16 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2014-11-30  6:05   ` Dan Espen
2014-11-30 14:56     ` Emanuel Berg
2014-11-30 17:04     ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2014-12-01 17:56       ` Dan Espen
2014-12-01 18:41         ` Rostislav Svoboda
     [not found]         ` <mailman.15078.1417459356.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-12-01 20:13           ` Dan Espen
2014-12-12  2:09           ` Emanuel Berg
2014-11-30 14:51   ` Emanuel Berg
2014-12-12  3:42   ` Emacs and Unix (was: Re: Elisp addiction not as bad in light of Linux forkoholism) Emanuel Berg
2014-11-30 16:14 ` Elisp addiction not as bad in light of Linux forkoholism Marcin Borkowski
     [not found] ` <mailman.15000.1417364114.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-11-30 17:35   ` Emanuel Berg
2014-11-30 18:36     ` Marcin Borkowski
2014-11-30 19:27       ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
     [not found]       ` <mailman.15012.1417375681.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-11-30 19:43         ` Emanuel Berg
2014-11-30 20:18           ` Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]           ` <mailman.15021.1417378703.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-11-30 22:21             ` Emanuel Berg
2014-11-30 22:30           ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
     [not found]           ` <mailman.15028.1417386648.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-12-12  1:55             ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]     ` <mailman.15006.1417372637.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-11-30 19:41       ` Emanuel Berg
2014-11-30 18:16 ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
     [not found] ` <mailman.15002.1417371387.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-11-30 18:32   ` Emanuel Berg
2014-12-02 14:50 ` Raffaele Ricciardi [this message]
2014-12-02 15:07   ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]   ` <mailman.15150.1417532856.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-12-02 16:01     ` Loris Bennett
2014-12-02 17:00       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-03  1:44       ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]       ` <mailman.15187.1417571105.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-12-12  2:38         ` Emanuel Berg
2014-12-12  2:17   ` Emanuel Berg

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