From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rusi Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Programming starting Lisp Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 10:53:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <87ha1hk64w.fsf@debian.uxu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1407866129 5500 80.91.229.3 (12 Aug 2014 17:55:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 17:55:29 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 12 19:55:24 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XHGI7-0001zL-Iw for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 19:55:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43424 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XHGI7-0007is-6w for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 13:55:23 -0400 X-Received: by 10.52.186.103 with SMTP id fj7mr7164057vdc.8.1407865981384; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 10:53:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.51.18.100 with SMTP id gl4mr11316igd.6.1407865981118; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 10:53:01 -0700 (PDT) Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!v10no6528348qac.1!news-out.google.com!px9ni588igc.0!nntp.google.com!h18no18990809igc.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help In-Reply-To: <87ha1hk64w.fsf@debian.uxu> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=59.95.28.116; posting-account=mBpa7woAAAAGLEWUUKpmbxm-Quu5D8ui Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 59.95.28.116 User-Agent: G2/1.0 Injection-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 17:53:01 +0000 Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:206905 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:99181 Archived-At: On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 10:16:39 PM UTC+5:30, Emanuel Berg wrote: > Rusi writes: > > I am collecting material on univs starting > > programming with functional programming: > > ... > > I am sure that more places are using Lisp... cant > > seem to find much. > > If anyone knows any, in particular non-scheme lisp > > usage in programming education, please let me know. > I have said a couple of times that I don't believe in > paradigms that much. If you tell your students that > paradigms are models to enhance our understanding, not > rules what to do, and certainly not descriptions of > technology (just think of C and Lisp, with which you > can do anything and everything, in whatever style) - if > you promise that, ..., no, you don't need to promise > that, I'll answer anyway: > Yes, I did Lisp, Erlang and Haskell in a course called > "Advanced functional programming" at Uppsala > University, Sweden. But in the CS program there were > many courses that included functional programming in > one way or another: SML was the first language I did at > the university, I did more Erlang on distributed > systems because of modularity/concurrency, etc. As for > Lisp in particular, I don't remember that from any > other course. > The Lisp we did was Common Lisp. I still have the > configuration I did to Emacs to do that: > (setq inferior-lisp-program "/usr/bin/sbcl --noinform") > sbcl is "Steel Bank Common Lisp", probably some remnant > of the Lispic wars when there were so much sweet Lisp > around in different flavors. > One of the books we read (and the only one I remember) > was "Land of Lisp", which was very good. I still use > the style with parenthesis like they did in that book: > (setq load-path > (cl-concatenate 'list load-path > '("~/.emacs.d/emacs-init/" > "~/.emacs.d/emacs-init/w3m/" > "~/.emacs.d/emacs-init/gnus/") )) > Here are the notes I took on that course with respect > to CL: > http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573/common_lisp/intro.l > I haven't touched it in all those years (never look > back), but I passed the course, so it should be mostly > correct. Thanks Emanuel for the data Uppsala occured a couple of times. However I cant find anything like a syllabus I can point to. Do you know of one? In particular if there is something in Swedish and google-translate does a half-decent job of translating it, that'd be useful