From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: no C-h i m emacs ?? Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 14:30:59 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87egt14r51.fsf@reader.local.lan> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1416252692 10757 80.91.229.3 (17 Nov 2014 19:31:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 19:31:32 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 17 20:31:27 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XqS1G-0001X9-HU for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 20:31:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49883 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XqS1G-0001gb-32 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 14:31:26 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55941) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XqS0r-0001Z7-Rb for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 14:31:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XqS0q-0006rS-UB for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 14:31:01 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:50415) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XqS0q-0006rO-RU for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 14:31:00 -0500 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XqS0p-0003PJ-Ld; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 14:30:59 -0500 X-Spook: nitrate gamma hackers AIEWS fraud Taiwan War on Terrorism X-Ran: F#)U{QR;=/]\AFmC@[>#&gqpQ%=/H&qKm[9F2u33grxaVW0Z*+t`_+?VT+KnTJJb (Harry Putnam's message of "Mon, 17 Nov 2014 13:29:46 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:101002 Archived-At: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2014-10/msg00368.html In particular: consider adding a comment to one of the several Debian bug reports that exist about this issue, eg http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=685933 to encourage them to improve the way they handle this, which has been confusing Emacs users on Debian for 7+ years now. [IMO: if Debian want to rip out the manuals, they need to replace them with stubs that say where to get the real manuals.]