From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Emanuel Berg <embe8573@student.uu.se>, help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: RE: side effects, list sharing [was: `append' vs. `nconc']
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2015 11:15:09 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c9c86c75-d114-4838-b98a-e51e577e626f@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8760zev3xt.fsf@debian.uxu>
> But other then time/space optimization, what would you
> say is the reason not to play it safe/sane and just
> return stuff, new stuff if necessary, but instead
> modify them directly?
You will know it if you see it or when you really need it!
If you don't see a need for sharing list structure then
playing it safe/sane is the right approach.
If you are modifying someone else's code, and you see
structure-modifying code, that is, code that indicates
that list-sharing is going on, then you need to wake up
and take that into consideration.
Otherwise, there is no need to worry about it - just
play it safe/sane and Bob's your uncle.
If you just want to learn about such use cases, look
through existing Lisp code for uses of `setcar' and
company. I can almost guarantee that they are not
used gratuitously.
And unless you see them used in a clearly local and
safe/encapsulated fashion, look around for what's
really going on, to see why that code uses list-sharing.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-12-31 19:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-12-28 16:35 Error: Setting the shell in sh-mode via a local variable does not work Johannes Kastl
2015-12-29 1:32 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-12-29 18:33 ` Johannes Kastl
2015-12-30 14:53 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-12-30 15:15 ` Robert Thorpe
2015-12-30 15:30 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-12-30 17:42 ` Johannes Kastl
2015-12-30 15:19 ` Teemu Likonen
2015-12-30 15:41 ` `append' vs. `nconc' (was: Re: Error: Setting the shell in sh-mode via a local variable does not work) Emanuel Berg
2015-12-30 16:37 ` `append' vs. `nconc' Teemu Likonen
2015-12-31 3:37 ` Emanuel Berg
[not found] ` <mailman.1400.1451533083.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-12-31 3:45 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-12-31 4:00 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-12-31 9:22 ` tomas
2015-12-31 18:48 ` Emanuel Berg
[not found] ` <mailman.1402.1451534421.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-12-31 5:36 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-12-31 3:50 ` Emanuel Berg
[not found] ` <mailman.1401.1451533833.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-12-31 5:37 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-12-31 7:13 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-12-31 9:30 ` tomas
2015-12-31 17:56 ` side effects, list sharing [was: `append' vs. `nconc'] Drew Adams
2015-12-31 19:00 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-12-31 19:15 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2016-01-01 13:20 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-12-31 18:51 ` `append' vs. `nconc' Emanuel Berg
[not found] ` <mailman.1440.1451588113.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-01 2:53 ` Barry Margolin
2016-01-01 13:26 ` Emanuel Berg
[not found] ` <mailman.1406.1451546036.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-12-31 8:54 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-12-31 7:31 ` Teemu Likonen
2015-12-31 18:35 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-12-31 20:04 ` Teemu Likonen
2016-01-01 13:23 ` Emanuel Berg
2016-01-01 14:02 ` Teemu Likonen
2016-01-01 18:31 ` Emanuel Berg
[not found] ` <mailman.1438.1451586967.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-01 6:25 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2016-01-01 13:31 ` Emanuel Berg
2016-01-01 15:04 ` Drew Adams
[not found] ` <mailman.1353.1451490125.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-12-30 16:18 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
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