From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Tim Johnson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: No Help Window from *Packages* - No Package Specified Error Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 16:05:25 -0900 Message-ID: References: <283ec781-943d-97d2-e019-a4cb17c7d629@akwebsoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="49855"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.0 To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 19 02:08:00 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1j4DqK-000Csq-Kj for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 02:08:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43896 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1j4DqJ-0001XD-J3 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 20:07:59 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42177) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1j4Dnu-00079L-8f for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 20:05:31 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j4Dns-0000vO-OE for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 20:05:29 -0500 Original-Received: from gateway31.websitewelcome.com ([192.185.144.218]:35699) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j4Dns-0000sh-9z for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 20:05:28 -0500 Original-Received: from cm14.websitewelcome.com (cm14.websitewelcome.com [100.42.49.7]) by gateway31.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 139DD3A89 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 19:05:27 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from host2075.hostmonster.com ([67.20.113.97]) by cmsmtp with SMTP id 4Dnqj0CMFXVkQ4DnqjN2xB; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 19:05:27 -0600 X-Authority-Reason: nr=8 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tj49.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version :Date:Message-ID:From:References:To:Subject:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=Da5sQd/OP8qZ8vewfcZjNvWxQ9hqKdvWXnyecXae6u8=; b=GD8dBs+gn4vvjFL7EDroX00/C3 BJYeqNkNK4JHuAMLoxUqPzDGh/O+/zAqKzb3Vp3hpQMZ9vqLH6bsx0k/rL/Xem246yi/FLDD32Y3e 8DHBD8n0vQIJk1mUusAy7m/fq; Original-Received: from tjohnson.mtaonline.net ([64.4.232.191]:42330 helo=[192.168.1.6]) by host2075.hostmonster.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1j4Dnq-002T7I-Fj for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 18:05:26 -0700 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host2075.hostmonster.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - akwebsoft.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 64.4.232.191 X-Source-L: No X-Exim-ID: 1j4Dnq-002T7I-Fj X-Source-Sender: tjohnson.mtaonline.net ([192.168.1.6]) [64.4.232.191]:42330 X-Source-Auth: tim@tj49.com X-Email-Count: 1 X-Source-Cap: bW9sZG92YXM7bW9sZG92YXM7aG9zdDIwNzUuaG9zdG1vbnN0ZXIuY29t X-Local-Domain: yes X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 192.185.144.218 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:122427 Archived-At: Continuing to backtrace from el-get-methods to that module's=20 dependencies, I got to el-get-elp and find that when the following=20 expression at or about line 17 of el-get.el (require 'package nil t) is executed, the error occurs. :) - it's that darn 'package package again= . cheers On 2/18/20 3:30 PM, Tim Johnson wrote: > > On 2/18/20 2:31 PM, Drew Adams wrote: >> Hi Tim, >> >> Could you try bisecting either dired+.el or el-get.el (commenting out=20 >> 1/2,... etc.), to see which part of either (or both) is causing the=20 >> problem? > > Began commenting out below the stack of required expressions. With=20 > el-get again being required/loaded from init.el, the list-packages=20 > help window was disabled with the "No package specified" error message=20 > regardless of the section disabled > > Then I commented out all of the required expressions at the top of=20 > el-get.el and the error went away. Began uncommenting and found that=20 > the error shows again where > > (require 'el-get-methods) > > is executed. > > May I conclude that it is coming from el-get-methods? > >> I'm guessing it's something more general, something used in one or=20 >> both of those libraries that is not particularly uncommon/bizarre,=20 >> but that doesn't work well with package.el.=C2=A0 If so, it would be g= ood=20 >> to know what, and maybe report it to Emacs as a bug, if it's=20 >> something that should be normal. >> >> (Alternatively, maybe it's something in package.el.) >> >> BTW, is this a new problem, e.g. started happening with a recent=20 >> version of one or more of the 3 libraries (dired+, el-get, package)? > > I use list-packages very infrequently. I also install new versions=20 > from source regularly as they are introduced as being stable - as in :=20 > ./configure; make; make install > > I don't recall what was previous to 26.3 because it has been=20 > overwritten as /usr/local/bin but it was at that version that I first=20 > noticed it. > > thanks > >> >> Thx - Drew >> >>> It appears to me that the following two packages: >>> (require 'package) >>> (require 'el-get) >>> are causing the problem. >>> >>> So, with dired+ loaded and the two packages above loaded, I do not=20 >>> get a >>> *Help* window when I click on a link to a package in the *Packages* >>> window, which is invoked from Alt-x list-packages. >>> >>> With (require 'dired+) commented out, I will get the *Help* window. >>> >>> With dired+ loaded; package el-get disabled I will get the *Help*=20 >>> window. >>> >>> So, I guess I will go with dired+ enabled, 'packages and 'el-get >>> disabled and the issue appears to be solved. > --=20 Tim tj49.com