From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: GTK2 support in Emacs 21.3.1? Date: 18 Apr 2003 10:55:47 +0900 Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <5lel41makx.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> <5ladepm442.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1050631133 5387 80.91.224.249 (18 Apr 2003 01:58:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 01:58:53 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 18 03:58:51 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 196L9P-0001Ok-00 for ; Fri, 18 Apr 2003 03:58:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 196L9E-0008EU-07 for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2003 21:58:40 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 196L8n-0007jF-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2003 21:58:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 196L8Y-0007VV-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2003 21:57:58 -0400 Original-Received: from tyo201.gate.nec.co.jp ([202.32.8.214]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 196L7t-0007QI-00; Thu, 17 Apr 2003 21:57:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mailgate3.nec.co.jp ([10.7.69.194])h3I1v2q27310; Fri, 18 Apr 2003 10:57:02 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: (from root@localhost) by mailgate3.nec.co.jp (8.11.6/3.7W-MAILGATE-NEC) id h3I1v2220335; Fri, 18 Apr 2003 10:57:02 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from edtmg04.lsi.nec.co.jp ([10.26.17.201]) by mailsv.nec.co.jp (8.11.6/3.7W-MAILSV-NEC) with ESMTP id h3I1tma14803; Fri, 18 Apr 2003 10:57:00 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mcsss2.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) id KAA15096; Fri, 18 Apr 2003 10:55:48 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (mcspd15 [10.30.114.174]) with ESMTP id h3I1tlNH010077; Fri, 18 Apr 2003 10:55:47 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (Postfix, from userid 31295) id A510E3701; Fri, 18 Apr 2003 10:55:47 +0900 (JST) Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu Blat: Foop In-Reply-To: <5ladepm442.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> Original-Lines: 34 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:8580 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:8580 "Stefan Monnier" writes: > I'm pretty happy with my 6x13 fixed font, so I'm not going to spend > my time on anti-aliasing although I agree it would be nice to have. While current GTK2/FT2 font anti-aliasing looks great for typical variable-width fonts, places where it gets used for fixed-width fonts (e.g., gnome-terminal) look notably worse to me than versions using non-anti-aliased fonts. I'm not entirely sure why this is; some possibilities that come to mind: (1) FT2 doesn't render these fonts* well for some reason (2) They aren't hinted well (though at least Andale Mono seems hinted quite well actually) (3) Something about the usage of fixed-width fonts makes the artifacts of anti-aliasing (e.g. occasional fuzzy edges and uneven brightness) more objectionable than with variable-width fonts (4) I think I tend to use fixed-width fonts at smaller point sizes, as the number of columns visible often matters more with them, and anti-aliasing tends to look pretty bad at such point sizes (5) ? * `These fonts' being the fixed-width fonts usable with FT2 on my system, e.g., Luxi Mono, Kochi Gothic, various versions of Courier, Andale Mono. -Miles -- A zen-buddhist walked into a pizza shop and said, "Make me one with everything."