From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Rasmussen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs newbie - Syntax Highlighting and Indentation Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:06:18 +0100 Organization: UNI-C Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1068895049 30245 80.91.224.253 (15 Nov 2003 11:17:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:17:29 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 15 12:17:26 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AKyQg-0000fp-00 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:17:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AKzLl-0001dK-3P for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 07:16:25 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!uninett.no!news.net.uni-c.dk!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 22 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: oek.dk Original-X-Trace: news.net.uni-c.dk 1068894167 9325 62.61.154.25 (15 Nov 2003 11:02:47 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.net.uni-c.dk Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:02:47 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, da In-Reply-To: Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:118311 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:14252 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:14252 Peter S Galbraith wrote: > > The nice thing about looking at the custom interface once in a while is > that it makes a nice summary of features in one place. You learn a lot > about what's available by looking at it. > Good point. And I'd say: Would it kill emacs to have menus on all platforms, even in the console? They could just stay out of the way most of the time, and only pop up when requested. There is no reason why emacs couldn't have a layered architeture, in terms of usability. That is, there is no way why the most common operations shouldn't be fairly easy to figure out and perform, even for a newbie. Advanced features shouldn't stand in the way for simple features. But I like emacs so far. I don't know why, but I seem to be able to learn and remember stuff faster than with vim. Weird. /David