From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: kgold@watson.ibm.com (kgold) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: emacs vs vs.net Date: 29 Oct 2003 14:45:14 GMT Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <3f9f2256$1@news.microsoft.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1067439852 13669 80.91.224.253 (29 Oct 2003 15:04:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:04:12 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 29 16:04:10 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AErrl-0001pG-00 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:04:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AErp0-0004nd-Hy for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 10:01:18 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!news-stoc.telia.net!news-stoa.telia.net!telia.net!nntp.inet.fi!inet.fi!ash.uu.net!an02.austin.ibm.com!ausnews.austin.ibm.com!newsfeed.btv.ibm.com!news.btv.ibm.com!alpha.watson.ibm.com!kgold Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 41 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: alpha.watson.ibm.com Original-X-Trace: news.btv.ibm.com 1067438714 10940 9.2.16.245 (29 Oct 2003 14:45:14 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: news@btv.ibm.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 29 Oct 2003 14:45:14 GMT X-Newsreader: xrn 9.02 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:117682 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:13616 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:13616 There are two questions - using emacs for email and comparing it to Notepad. For email, I will admit that, if all you want to do is read email, there are probably better choices than emacs. But, if you want to write as well, most email clients have very primitive Notepad type editors. Now compared to Notepad, both have simple copy, cut and paste. I prefer emacs, where you can do the entire operation using the mouse, to Notepad's "mark with the mouse, copy with the keyboard, move with the mouse, paste with the keyboard." If you like continuously switching between the keyboard and mouse, you'll like Notepad. Beyond cut and paste, Notepad flops. In emacs you can move the cursor by word, sentence, paragraph, etc. You can transpose letters or words, capitalize, uppercase or lowercase a word, define and run macros, split the screen, run a spell checker, do language translation, enter accented characters, and infinite undo. emacs really shines when you go beyond email, as it understands various programming languages, so it eases program entry and compilation. It hooks easily to debuggers and source control servers. Finally, it runs on Windows, Mac, and Unix, so it's learn once - use everywhere. And it's free. And you get free support. "William Shieh" writes: > > i'm very new to email and the system i'm using most of the time is win32. > could someone give me some example why emacs is so powerful? from what i > could see is that it takes more key to do a simple copy and paste than > notepad. i know notepad is probably not a good example, however, can anyone > give me a good reason why you use emacs instead of vs.net from ms? --