From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: J Krugman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Why have "shell" when there's "term" Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 22:11:36 +0000 (UTC) Organization: (NONE) Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <87y90f9mm7.fsf@blarg.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1054937671 10923 80.91.224.249 (6 Jun 2003 22:14:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 22:14:31 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 07 00:14:29 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19OPTh-0002q1-00 for ; Sat, 07 Jun 2003 00:14:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19OPUp-0003cP-GX for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 18:15:39 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!panix!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 23 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: panix3.panix.com Original-X-Trace: reader1.panix.com 1054937496 785 166.84.1.3 (6 Jun 2003 22:11:36 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 22:11:36 +0000 (UTC) X-No-Confirm: yes User-Agent: nn/6.6.5 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:114243 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:10737 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:10737 In <87y90f9mm7.fsf@blarg.net> Eric Hanchrow writes: >In shell mode, all of Emacs is readily avaiable; in term mode, it >isn't. >Here's what I mean: >* in shell mode, you can easily scroll back to the beginning of the > buffer with M-<, just like any other buffer; I don't think there's > any way to do that in term. >* in shell mode, you can copy anything in the buffer -- your input or > the computer's output -- with M-w, just like any other buffer; I > don't think there's any way to do that in term. >Etc. etc. You can easily do all that in term. Just go into line mode (C-c C-j), and when you're done with doing Emacs stuff, go back to char mode (C-c C-k). But I guess the answer to my question is that Emacs has these two highly redundant functions because each has a constituency...