From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jacob Hrbek Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: no to war in Ukraine Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2022 11:46:56 +0000 Message-ID: References: <87ee3p4xn4.fsf@zoho.eu> <87tucl18rp.fsf@zoho.eu> <3cf3a903-10fb-76e4-24f8-d2e48d045f5c@rixotstudio.cz> Reply-To: Jacob Hrbek Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="------25ee3e11e8f2cc7b0cd9c468360c973bdb6298e2df627aa498287c201dcf42c8"; charset=utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20294"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Richard Stallman , Jean Louis To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 28 12:56:46 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nOedy-00052c-9C for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 28 Feb 2022 12:56:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38108 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nOedw-0000Y4-U0 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 28 Feb 2022 06:56:44 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:60774) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nOeUr-0003K6-Ph for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Feb 2022 06:47:23 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-4317.proton.ch ([185.70.43.17]:32232) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nOeUn-000416-Qy for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Feb 2022 06:47:20 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rixotstudio.cz; s=protonmail3; t=1646048825; bh=uU3X+Un4kw6xzbAJGUCkV97spWpFaHWS0Z+6OrG4+8M=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Reply-To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID; b=m8dokPst1DvgpstxkVl98dmNuL14fF3eTw20HLgZYwqdqhOnrCRg9WJpuSE+v83yp l6YihITpKBUzcN87aLSHR5S0Ix3/XZolO6t9KWnigHo0sZXocXiCP1beTwOW0ZqJfy RhZNT0AZjFHbdyexnGmbuJdmngvokesYAiqEsELuQrZz7V/I9wh6CyVeIVsFXaTxuz mZyy+RXKysPKYq2+VfhsKBr0relzoAWd+jsIvUwXRC1cc4P7h7Iccm1/tCLIEPTYRB Sc4kSQ/CsnDQCb4RdrH0xftCrojtlL5cgLW/PZu37kCM9DpUmfG8TfMIXit/w8vIeV jsnapg/tOPvSg== In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.70.43.17; envelope-from=kreyren@rixotstudio.cz; helo=mail-4317.proton.ch X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:136281 Archived-At: This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --------25ee3e11e8f2cc7b0cd9c468360c973bdb6298e2df627aa498287c201dcf42c8 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=2599cdf9022ce324529201672f37dd0a22a1a8d447e436f418ed822ef3b4 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2022 12:46:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.5.0 Subject: Re: no to war in Ukraine Content-Language: en-US To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org References: <87ee3p4xn4.fsf@zoho.eu> <87tucl18rp.fsf@zoho.eu> <3cf3a903-10fb-76e4-24f8-d2e48d045f5c@rixotstudio.cz> Cc: Richard Stallman , Jean Louis From: Jacob Hrbek In-Reply-To: --2599cdf9022ce324529201672f37dd0a22a1a8d447e436f418ed822ef3b4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > This list is not for promotion of proprietary software. One thing is promotion of proprietary software the other is the promotion of freedom for which we dedicated our effort to do It can _NOT_ be called a Free Software and Free Hardware Designs if it's used to circumvent the Freedom for 43 _MILLION_ people (that's 43 000 000 people!) by violence, war crimes and death. What i argue for is to enforce the values on which we found Free Software instead of being ignorant and dedicating more resources in this namely the second part that majority of Free Software advocates and developers comfortably prefer to not exist: * Freedom 2: The freedom to /redistribute/ and make copies _so you can help your neighbour_ How can you even argue that we are helping our neighbour here? We are enabling this violent war criminal who wages the war on freedom with the threat of a nuclear missiles on the European Union member countries and invasion of finland and swed en to kill us and our neighbours and worse in my case my slav brothers and sisters. Each minute that we hesitate on the subject is a minute of resources that we gift to russia to continue in this by maintaining their technological infrastructure. > Condemning citizens of single country for what their political leaders do is wrong. I am not condemning, i even praised my brothers and sisters in russia who take a huge risks to oppose putin by staging mass protests across russian federation as "The Heroes of Russia"[https://qoto.org/@kreyren/107875192175864676] multiple times and i do whatever i can to support them. On 2/28/22 10:16, Jean Louis wrote: > This list is not for promotion of proprietary software. -- Jacob Hrbek, In support of ukraine sovereignty #supportUkraine --2599cdf9022ce324529201672f37dd0a22a1a8d447e436f418ed822ef3b4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; name="publickey - kreyren@rixotstudio.cz - 1677db82.asc"; filename="publickey - kreyren@rixotstudio.cz - 1677db82.asc" Content-Type: application/pgp-keys; name="publickey - kreyren@rixotstudio.cz - 1677db82.asc"; filename="publickey - kreyren@rixotstudio.cz - 1677db82.asc" LS0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgUFVCTElDIEtFWSBCTE9DSy0tLS0tClZlcnNpb246IEdvcGVuUEdQIDIu Mi4yCkNvbW1lbnQ6IGh0dHBzOi8vZ29wZW5wZ3Aub3JnCgp4ak1FWUFsM0ZoWUpLd1lCQkFIYVJ3 OEJBUWRBUUtBcG1kUjh0RzlhS0VkeHdISi9aS08yQ3ZaTVJXUHRCTk5HCnFKVWhwMkxOTDJ0eVpY bHlaVzVBY21sNGIzUnpkSFZrYVc4dVkzb2dQR3R5WlhseVpXNUFjbWw0YjNSemRIVmsKYVc4dVkz byt3bzhFRUJZS0FDQUZBbUFKZHhZR0N3a0hDQU1DQkJVSUNnSUVGZ0lCQUFJWkFRSWJBd0llQVFB aApDUkN0MDMwVXEwTDhxUlloQkJaMzI0S1RqS2hsYzRFakI2M1RmUlNyUXZ5cDU3UUEvMHRsYmRu Q0l6cmVLWG12ClcyWFNZWHpBSm90SmR4Q3pFK1hBVE0rcVBES3pBUUNjYkhwN3l3NitBcm5nZVN0 R0ZuL29saHhUUGRwdTY0MUMKTEdpZ1BtRW9CYzQ0QkdBSmR4WVNDaXNHQVFRQmwxVUJCUUVCQjBE YWlJM2pRZlNvaTNEWjQvTmZteEdkc1Jzdgo5L0JxTWdXNWo2amRCcWt5SUFNQkNBZkNlQVFZRmdn QUNRVUNZQWwzRmdJYkRBQWhDUkN0MDMwVXEwTDhxUlloCkJCWjMyNEtUaktobGM0RWpCNjNUZlJT clF2eXBIY0VCQU9ReFMvSi9VTTBlZThrMmpibGlXZC9RMElkK1g4VUgKQlhoeXFWUmMyMnFyQVFE TEhjVzk3V1FiU0pGbzE5a3d0NzBPeUhlcEY2TFdwREQwUHVJU1pENklDZz09Cj05a1pnCi0tLS0t RU5EIFBHUCBQVUJMSUMgS0VZIEJMT0NLLS0tLS0= --2599cdf9022ce324529201672f37dd0a22a1a8d447e436f418ed822ef3b4-- --------25ee3e11e8f2cc7b0cd9c468360c973bdb6298e2df627aa498287c201dcf42c8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: ProtonMail wnUEARYIACcFAmIcti0JkK3TfRSrQvypFqEEFnfbgpOMqGVzgSMHrdN9FKtC /KkAAA1vAQD5iiYEJEwGu8+fsG8y4EGFAKlU27qoyvOvxBGGo+wKEAEAkeE9 UQ1H6q+hB8c05Em8IbmQKpsX3Fjq8dnHvvhEhg8= =4TXl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------25ee3e11e8f2cc7b0cd9c468360c973bdb6298e2df627aa498287c201dcf42c8--