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From: Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: origin of the Meta key
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 23:38:33 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <barmar-71F73F.23383323082008@newsgroups.comcast.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 6dbf5b52-af69-4517-ae82-6dbed45492b5@s20g2000prd.googlegroups.com

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In article 
<6dbf5b52-af69-4517-ae82-6dbed45492b5@s20g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
 Xah <xahlee@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Aug 23, 2:41 pm, Barry Margolin <bar...@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> 
> > Nope, you have it wrong.  Meta came from the SAIL keyboard at Stanford
> > AI Lab, developed in 1971.  This was more than a decade before Sun was
> > founded.  Of course, the Sun founders came from Stanford, so they were
> > undoubtedly familiar with this keyboard, and the diamond key was
> > presumably put there to serve the same function.  Similarly with Apple's
> > command key.
> >
> > http://www.stanford.edu/~learnest/sailaway.htm
> >
> > http://infolab.stanford.edu/pub/voy/museum/pictures
> > /display/1-6-RAIL-keybd.jpg
> 
> Thanks for this informative post!
> 
> Quote from the article:
> 
> «A fancier display system, installed at SAIL in 1971, put a terminal
> using a television monitor on everyone's desk. SAIL was apparently the
> first system in the world that put terminals in offices -- before
> that, the few computer displays that existed were kept in "display
> rooms." This display system also included an advanced keyboard that
> introduced the "Meta" key and other features to facilitate touch-
> typing. That keyboard design was picked up promptly by MIT and
> Carnegie-Mellon University and later by Apple, whose Command key is a
> direct descendent of the Meta key on the SAIL keyboard.»
> 
> i did a quick google image search but didn't find more photos...
> 
> is here more info about this keyboard? or other doc about the origin
> of the Meta?

I wasn't able to find much more, either.  Googling for "sail keyboard" 
mostly finds articles about bands whose song titles contain the word 
"sail".  Google needs a way for you to tell it the general topic area, 
so when you're looking for computer stuff you don't get rock & roll 
answers.

But you might want to look at the picture of the Knight keyboard, which 
was MIT's evolution of the SAIL keyboard:

http://world.std.com/~jdostale/kbd/Knight.html

and the Space Cadet keyboard that was derived from it for use on the 
Lisp Machines:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space-cadet_keyboard

-- 
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
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  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-24  3:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-24 17:36 What does 'run' do in cperl-mode? formido
2008-07-25  3:02 ` formido
2008-07-25 14:55 ` Xah
2008-07-25 16:41   ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-25 21:55     ` Xah
2008-07-26  0:05       ` Florian Beck
2008-07-26  2:04         ` Xah
2008-07-26  0:33       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
     [not found]       ` <mailman.15432.1217032437.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-07-26  1:41         ` Xah
2008-07-28 11:42       ` Nikolaj Schumacher
2008-07-28 11:58         ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-07-28 13:39       ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-28 15:02         ` Xah Lee
2008-07-28 16:34           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
     [not found]           ` <mailman.15504.1217262880.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-07-28 17:42             ` Xah Lee
2008-07-28 22:44               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-28 19:57           ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-28 20:28             ` Xah Lee
2008-07-28 21:31               ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-28 22:09                 ` Xah Lee
2008-07-29 14:33                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-29 23:20                     ` Xah
     [not found]       ` <mailman.15488.1217245359.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-07-28 15:22         ` Xah Lee
2008-07-28 22:14           ` Nikolaj Schumacher
     [not found]           ` <mailman.15520.1217283300.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-07-28 22:54             ` Xah Lee
2008-07-29  3:32               ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]               ` <mailman.15531.1217302334.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-07-29  7:25                 ` Xah
2008-07-29  7:46                   ` Juanma Barranquero
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.15537.1217317612.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-07-29  8:41                     ` Xah
2008-07-29 12:56                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-07-29 13:34                       ` William Case
2008-07-29  9:39                     ` Phil Carmody
2008-07-29 12:55                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-07-29 18:19                     ` Colin S. Miller
2008-07-30 12:29                       ` David Hansen
2008-07-30 13:34                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-07-29 19:33                   ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.15565.1217360044.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-07-29 19:45                     ` Joost Diepenmaat
2008-07-29 21:16                     ` Xah
2008-07-30  3:34                       ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                       ` <mailman.15577.1217388899.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-07-30  3:55                         ` Xah
2008-07-30 18:06                           ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.15607.1217441187.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-07-30 18:37                             ` Xah
2008-08-23 21:22                     ` David Combs
2008-08-23 21:41                     ` Barry Margolin
2008-08-24  0:15                       ` origin of the Meta key Xah
2008-08-24  3:38                         ` Barry Margolin [this message]
2008-08-26 12:19                           ` Allan Gottlieb
2008-07-29 22:25                   ` What does 'run' do in cperl-mode? Andreas Eder
2008-07-29 23:35                     ` Xah
2008-07-30  8:47                       ` Andreas Eder
2008-07-30  9:49                         ` Xah
2008-07-30 17:58                           ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.15606.1217440713.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-07-30 18:17                             ` David Kastrup
2008-07-29 11:13               ` Nikolaj Schumacher
2008-07-29 11:52               ` Alan Mackenzie
     [not found]               ` <mailman.15542.1217330058.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-07-29 12:05                 ` Xah
2008-07-29 21:55                   ` David Kastrup
     [not found]               ` <mailman.15545.1217332445.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-07-29 12:44                 ` Xah
2008-07-29 15:16                   ` Nikolaj Schumacher
2008-07-29 18:27                   ` Alan Mackenzie
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.15550.1217344626.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-07-29 21:32                     ` Xah
2008-07-29 23:06                       ` Nikolaj Schumacher
     [not found]                       ` <mailman.15574.1217372768.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-07-29 23:29                         ` Xah
2008-07-31 19:07                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-08-01  3:34                         ` Xah
2008-08-01  7:18                           ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.15688.1217575142.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-08-01  8:00                             ` Xah
2008-08-01  8:12                           ` Nikolaj Schumacher
2008-08-01 15:17                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-08-06 22:42                           ` Harry Putnam
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.15964.1218062567.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-08-06 23:22                             ` Xah
2008-08-07  6:39                               ` David Kastrup
2008-08-07  8:24                                 ` Xah
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.15564.1217356016.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-07-29 22:50                     ` Xah
2008-07-30 15:15                       ` Alan Mackenzie
     [not found]                       ` <mailman.15602.1217430872.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-07-30 17:32                         ` Xah
2008-07-30 17:45                           ` Joost Kremers
2008-07-30 18:33                             ` Xah
2008-07-30 19:40               ` Bastien
2008-07-30  0:28     ` namekuseijin
2008-07-27  3:05   ` formido
2008-07-27 11:36     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-27 11:56       ` Thierry Volpiatto

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