From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Dyballa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Window size specification ignored Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 10:57:59 +0200 Message-ID: References: <%QXUe.146063$dP1.502629@newsc.telia.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1126517853 12948 80.91.229.2 (12 Sep 2005 09:37:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 09:37:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 12 11:37:30 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EEkix-0004GR-WA for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 11:35:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EEkfs-0000L1-KE for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 05:32:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EEkAe-000611-Ay for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 05:00:12 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EEkAO-0005vT-1R for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 05:00:09 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EEk9e-0005YZ-Hv for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 04:59:11 -0400 Original-Received: from [217.72.192.224] (helo=smtp06.web.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.34) id 1EEk99-0003TF-5e for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 04:58:39 -0400 Original-Received: from [84.245.189.222] (helo=[192.168.1.2]) by smtp06.web.de with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (WEB.DE 4.105 #314) id 1EEk8X-0004k2-00; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 10:58:01 +0200 In-Reply-To: X-Image-Url: http://homepage.mac.com/sparifankal/.cv/thumbs/me.thumbnail Original-To: August Karlstrom X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) X-Sender: Peter_Dyballa@web.de X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:29424 Archived-At: Am 12.09.2005 um 02:58 schrieb August Karlstrom: > Am I missing something? > At least the correct Ubuntu ps syntax ... I am using a BSD style ps. 'man ps', inside Emacs as 'M-x manual-entry ps' or F1 F2, should be your friend. And it's worth doing the experiments inside GNU Emacs in its shell buffer. Ubuntu's setup with so many sym-links reminds of Fink for Mac OS X: I never knew exactly which file now was executing, and even worse: the Fink folks messed up the site specific things with a lot of intermediate and extra files that loaded each others for unknown reasons (it is similiar to some so-called Carbon Emacsen). Do you have an idea how much longer it takes to launch Fink's GNU Emacs 21.3.50 with -Q then without -Q? Minutes. Really. Beside this I have the feeling that Ubuntu is using a pretty old Emacs. Have you checked its version? This could explain that it does not understand -Q. Apple's gift of GNU Emacs 21.2, for use inside a terminal emulation only, does not understand -Q too. Are you able to 'trace' a programme's execution, i.e. follow it opening and closing files, doing system calls, receiving signals etc? This way you would find which Ubuntu specific Elisp files were executed at start-up ... but it's much easier to get GNU Emacs 22.0.50 from CVS and compile it yourself. A (much better then) nice'd 'make bootstrap' in the background will take one or two hours while you're having breakfast, lunch, or dinner, or going shopping -- it should be more satisfactory in the end! To do this you'll need many Ubuntu dev packages, containing C header files needed for 'dev-elopment', i.e. compiling a software. -- Greetings Pete Without vi there is only GNU Emacs