From: Barry Margolin <barry.margolin@level3.com>
Subject: Re: Object identity
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:27:03 GMT [thread overview]
Message-ID: <bMflb.145$lK3.1@news.level3.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.2095.1066762882.21628.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
In article <mailman.2095.1066762882.21628.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>,
Lars Brinkhoff <lars@nocrew.org> wrote:
>Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>> > Is there a function, say object-identity, in Emacs Lisp that maps an
>> > object to a unique value (other than the object itself)?
>> I'm wondering what you want it for.
>
>In the implementation of Common Lisp's print-unreadable-object when
>:identity t is supplied.
AFAIK, there's no guarantee that the same object will print identically
over time. Most implementations just display the object's current address;
if the GC moves it, the next time it's printed it will be different. And
it's also possible for two different objects to display identically; in
between the two PRINT-UNREADABLE-OBJECT calls the GC could copy one of them
into the location that the other one used to occupy.
Anyway, there's a reason why Common Lisp requires that
PRINT-UNREADABLE-OBJECT be built into the implementation. We didn't want
to expose an interface to getting these not-quite-unique identifiers.
They're not much use for anything other than this one function; if we
provided the API, users would undoubtedly misuse it.
--
Barry Margolin, barry.margolin@level3.com
Level(3), Woburn, MA
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2003-10-21 15:09 ` Object identity Stefan Monnier
2003-10-21 16:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-10-21 19:00 ` Lars Brinkhoff
[not found] ` <mailman.2095.1066762882.21628.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-10-21 19:27 ` Barry Margolin [this message]
2003-10-21 19:49 ` Lars Brinkhoff
[not found] ` <mailman.2101.1066765792.21628.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-10-21 19:56 ` Barry Margolin
2003-10-22 7:35 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2003-10-21 15:44 ` Barry Margolin
2003-10-21 16:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-10-21 16:19 ` Barry Margolin
2003-10-21 16:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-10-21 17:19 ` Barry Margolin
2003-10-21 17:42 ` Lars Brinkhoff
[not found] ` <mailman.2089.1066758667.21628.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-10-21 19:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-10-21 20:13 ` Lars Brinkhoff
[not found] ` <mailman.2104.1066767237.21628.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-10-21 21:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-10-21 21:39 ` Barry Margolin
2003-10-21 6:07 Lars Brinkhoff
2003-10-26 17:30 ` jan
2003-10-26 22:45 ` jan
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