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From: Barry Margolin <barry.margolin@level3.com>
Subject: Re: Object identity
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:27:03 GMT	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bMflb.145$lK3.1@news.level3.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.2095.1066762882.21628.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org

In article <mailman.2095.1066762882.21628.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>,
Lars Brinkhoff  <lars@nocrew.org> wrote:
>Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>> > Is there a function, say object-identity, in Emacs Lisp that maps an
>> > object to a unique value (other than the object itself)?
>> I'm wondering what you want it for.
>
>In the implementation of Common Lisp's print-unreadable-object when
>:identity t is supplied.

AFAIK, there's no guarantee that the same object will print identically
over time.  Most implementations just display the object's current address;
if the GC moves it, the next time it's printed it will be different.  And
it's also possible for two different objects to display identically; in
between the two PRINT-UNREADABLE-OBJECT calls the GC could copy one of them
into the location that the other one used to occupy.

Anyway, there's a reason why Common Lisp requires that
PRINT-UNREADABLE-OBJECT be built into the implementation.  We didn't want
to expose an interface to getting these not-quite-unique identifiers.
They're not much use for anything other than this one function; if we
provided the API, users would undoubtedly misuse it.

-- 
Barry Margolin, barry.margolin@level3.com
Level(3), Woburn, MA
*** DON'T SEND TECHNICAL QUESTIONS DIRECTLY TO ME, post them to newsgroups.
Please DON'T copy followups to me -- I'll assume it wasn't posted to the group.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-10-21 19:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.2049.1066716515.21628.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-10-21 15:09 ` Object identity Stefan Monnier
2003-10-21 16:55   ` Stefan Monnier
2003-10-21 19:00   ` Lars Brinkhoff
     [not found]   ` <mailman.2095.1066762882.21628.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-10-21 19:27     ` Barry Margolin [this message]
2003-10-21 19:49       ` Lars Brinkhoff
     [not found]       ` <mailman.2101.1066765792.21628.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-10-21 19:56         ` Barry Margolin
2003-10-22  7:35           ` Lars Brinkhoff
2003-10-21 15:44 ` Barry Margolin
2003-10-21 16:09   ` Stefan Monnier
2003-10-21 16:19     ` Barry Margolin
2003-10-21 16:50       ` Stefan Monnier
2003-10-21 17:19         ` Barry Margolin
2003-10-21 17:42   ` Lars Brinkhoff
     [not found]   ` <mailman.2089.1066758667.21628.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-10-21 19:59     ` Stefan Monnier
2003-10-21 20:13       ` Lars Brinkhoff
     [not found]       ` <mailman.2104.1066767237.21628.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-10-21 21:22         ` Stefan Monnier
2003-10-21 21:39           ` Barry Margolin
2003-10-21  6:07 Lars Brinkhoff
2003-10-26 17:30 ` jan
2003-10-26 22:45   ` jan

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