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From: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
To: Help GNU Emacs <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
Cc: Andrew Hyatt <ahyatt@gmail.com>
Subject: Programming Emacs visually with semantic triplets
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2023 18:48:06 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b5e8ecaaa52c323e8883893a9c36913b.support1@rcdrun.com> (raw)

It is 1 year and 8 months that I have started designing semantic
triplets in PostgreSQL database, today I started finally polishing the
database table design and playing with it.

The more I am playing with semantic triplets the more I get idea that
it is feasible to make a program in Emacs that will make programs by
using visual interface with semantic triplets.

I am more and more thinking that it could be possible:

- by using simplest associations, such as subject, predicate, object

- that user could ontologically create basic relations (or have same
  defaults) between various subjects, objects; I call them now
  "sobjects".

- that user could define higher level form or database definitions, by
  defining what has to be asked, what has to be recorded, without
  modifying the underlying actual database table

- that by program executing such definitions, user could be creating
  new functionality automatically, and 

- that new applications could get into existence by using visual,
  relationship based, programming in Emacs;

- and without programming Emacs Lisp, only by clicking and defining
  relations between objects


Various levels of visual programming idea:
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1. Underlying PostgreSQL or other database design is what I consider
   low level;

2. Emacs Lisp program is low level dealing with the database;

3. Emacs Interface to semantic triples would be higher level
   programming; 

4. Once triplets are defined, the Emacs Lisp program (2) would know
   how to run the application;


Demonstration of (3) playing with semantic triplets:
----------------------------------------------------

Screenshot for impatient:
https://gnu.support/images/2023/01/2023-01-21/mpv-shot0002.jpg

Video demo:
https://gnu.support/images/2023/01/2023-01-21/2023-01-21-18:03:23.ogv

If not for complex programs, then I can see with blur possibility of
designing any kind of structured information, such as:

- Contact management with all possible relationships, to mothers,
  fathers, associates, etc. freely

- Notes applications like the one of Andrew Hyatt, of various types,
  and how user wish and want by visual interactive design

- Invoices, receipts, inventory, sales


What I don't know is if the idea with visual programming feasible. 
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References:
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Andrew Hyatt and his package gave me to thinking of it today:

ahyatt/ekg: The emacs knowledge graph, app for notes and structured data.:
https://github.com/ahyatt/ekg

Semantic triple - Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_triple

OneModel — an Alternative to emacs org-mode:
https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=16/04/23/0149257

OneModel - Record, manage and share any knowledge:
http://onemodel.org/1/e-9223372036854618119.html

What is a triple? | Fundamentals with Oxford Semantic Technologies:
https://www.oxfordsemantic.tech/fundamentals/what-is-a-triple

--
Jean

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             reply	other threads:[~2023-01-21 15:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-21 15:48 Jean Louis [this message]
2023-01-21 17:38 ` Programming Emacs visually with semantic triplets Eduardo Ochs
2023-01-21 20:02   ` Jean Louis
2023-01-21 21:56     ` Andrew Hyatt

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