From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xah Lee Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How to get rid of *GNU Emacs* buffer on start-up? Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 20:06:47 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: References: <873ajzwoqu.fsf@kobe.laptop> <823901dd-c54c-4e3b-b6ad-512d52724a46@z11g2000prl.googlegroups.com> <05017720-90bf-4899-8cf5-1286f0dac77d@s20g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <2165a475-f39f-4cea-a6ca-db108bea1b04@n38g2000prl.googlegroups.com> <87zlm3hcbq.fsf@atthis.clsnet.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1221882129 23338 80.91.229.12 (20 Sep 2008 03:42:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 03:42:09 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 20 05:43:06 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KgtNA-00057y-39 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 20 Sep 2008 05:43:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54717 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KgtM8-0004lH-MN for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 23:42:00 -0400 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!p10g2000prf.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 73 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.6.185.159 Original-X-Trace: posting.google.com 1221880007 28929 127.0.0.1 (20 Sep 2008 03:06:47 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 03:06:47 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: p10g2000prf.googlegroups.com; posting-host=24.6.185.159; posting-account=qPxGtQkAAADb6PWdLGiWVucht1ZDR6fn User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X 10_4_11; en) AppleWebKit/525.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1.2 Safari/525.22, gzip(gfe), gzip(gfe) Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:162494 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:57837 Archived-At: On Sep 19, 5:48 pm, Cor Gest wrote: > Some entity, AKAXahLee, > wrote this mindboggling stuff: > (selectively-snipped-or-not-p) > > > The issue is not about fucking. > > > Please focuse on the issue if u are interested in discussing it. > > Right! > > NOBODY is interested in discussion(for discussions sake), > unless it is accompanied by working code. Actually, people are interested in discussion, and in fact that's what newsgroup is for. Also, you seems to suggest that people should not criticize software such criticism is not valuable, unless it is companied by code patches that fixes it. That is not true. In fact, successful software companies, from Open Source ones such as GNU to commercial corps such as Apple and Microsoft, highly value user feedback and criticism, and very actively change their software due to criticisms. Possibly you do not understand the meaning of criticism, or the meaning of =E2=80=9Cconstructive=E2=80=9D criticism. I suggest the followin= g articles: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism http://xahlee.org/UnixResource_dir/writ/criticism.html plain text version follows -------------------- Criticism versus Constructive Criticism Xah Lee, 2003-01 A lot intelligent people are rather confused about criticism, especially in our =E2=80=9Cfree-speech=E2=80=9D free-for-all internet age. = When they say =E2=80=9Cconstructive criticisms are welcome=E2=80=9D they mostly mean = =E2=80=9Cbitching and complaints not welcome=E2=80=9D. Rarely do people actually mean that =E2=80=9Ccriticism without suggestion of possible solutions are not welcome= =E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9Cimpolite criticism not welcome=E2=80=9D. Such discernment is important. Wanton bitching as internet-using geeks are used to is not criticism is any form. People can be respected and make a living out of criticisms, called critics, but not bitching. And when one really value opinions, you often want criticism without qualifications. Just be happy that valuable criticisms may come to you free from the experts in the public. The instant you qualify what kind of feedback are welcome, your feedback is compromised. (this is particularly so for political or controversial subjects) One easy way for many of the unix geekers to see this is the cryptology industry. If a person really desires valuable criticisms that are polite or with solutions or =E2=80=9Cconstructive=E2=80=9D (whatever that means), one usua= lly has to pay. Xah =E2=88=91 http://xahlee.org/ =E2=98=84