From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rusi Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: RTF for emacs Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 20:17:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <87fvk012fi.fsf@debian.uxu> <8761kw58n4.fsf@robertthorpeconsulting.com> <87a9a79gvk.fsf@debian.uxu> <87bnumsilw.fsf@debian.uxu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1400988024 8438 80.91.229.3 (25 May 2014 03:20:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 03:20:24 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 25 05:20:19 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WoOyw-0000w9-KO for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 25 May 2014 05:20:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50172 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WoOyv-0000hw-UC for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 24 May 2014 23:20:17 -0400 X-Received: by 10.66.157.138 with SMTP id wm10mr7096705pab.23.1400987878868; Sat, 24 May 2014 20:17:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.50.26.71 with SMTP id j7mr393049igg.1.1400987878767; Sat, 24 May 2014 20:17:58 -0700 (PDT) Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!c1no16370637igq.0!news-out.google.com!qf4ni13600igc.0!nntp.google.com!c1no16370630igq.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help In-Reply-To: <87bnumsilw.fsf@debian.uxu> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=59.95.26.200; posting-account=mBpa7woAAAAGLEWUUKpmbxm-Quu5D8ui Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 59.95.26.200 User-Agent: G2/1.0 Injection-Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 03:17:58 +0000 Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:205570 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:97840 Archived-At: On Sunday, May 25, 2014 7:52:03 AM UTC+5:30, Emanuel Berg wrote: > Question is, is there a similar way to include not the >=20 > ASCII, but the UTF-8 versions of the diagrams? I tried > the same way, only it got stuck on pdflatex on the very > Unicode. xetex (xelatex) and luatex are intended to solve this. I need to say however... After 3 days of struggling including some 1 G of downloads and setup fiddli= ng I hear that it may not be (quite) working. So currently I am torn between: On the one hand xelatex does not work, classic latex works On the other this is freakin 2014 do we still stay in 1980 and write \alpha \beta \gamma \delta ... \omega and \sum and \forall=20 when we can directly write =CE=B1 =CE=B2 =CE=B3 =CE=B4 =E2=80=A6 =CF=89 =E2= =88=91 =E2=88=80 ?? Note Haskell can already do =E2=89=A0 instead of /=3D Likewise =E2=88=A7 = =E2=88=A8 instead of ugly and obsolete && || More examples: http://blog.languager.org/2014/05/unicode-in-haskell-source.html And a more tongue-in-cheek poke at unix assumptions about ASCII http://blog.languager.org/2014/04/unicode-and-unix-assumption.html