From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Da Witch Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: How to customize a face? (Docs don't help) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:07:33 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Zero Sender: help-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035990668 16658 80.91.224.249 (30 Oct 2002 15:11:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:11:08 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 186uUo-0004Jd-00 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:11:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 186uVY-0001Cz-00; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:11:48 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!panix!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 20 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: panix3.panix.com Original-X-Trace: reader1.panix.com 1035990453 7842 166.84.1.3 (30 Oct 2002 15:07:33 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:07:33 +0000 (UTC) X-No-Confirm: yes User-Agent: nn/6.6.4 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:106558 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:3107 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:3107 When it comes to the question of how to customize a font face, I find the Emacs documentation not helpful at... I remember that in the past, customizing faces has taken me hours of trial-and-error and fruitless scanning of the docs. I see now that this confusing situation has not changed... For example, I've spent about 1 hour this morning trying in vain to find out how to determine the name of a face I have on the screen (so that I can customize it). If I do M-x customize-face, and I'm prompted for the name of the face to customize, the default answer is "all", which is much less helpful a default answer than the name of the face the point is currently on. The mode I'm currently using has about one dozen faces, and I can't tell from their names what most of them correspond to. Thanks in advance, h