From: Ilya Zakharevich <nospam-abuse@ilyaz.org>
Subject: Re: MULE shows gibberish; now what?
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 06:14:43 +0000 (UTC) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ao0hgi$1fim$1@agate.berkeley.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: amot9n$24j8$1@agate.berkeley.edu
[A complimentary Cc of this posting was sent to
Ilya Zakharevich
<nospam-abuse@ilyaz.org>], who wrote in article <amot9n$24j8$1@agate.berkeley.edu>:
> Given the amount of bad press MULE gets (AFAIU, correctly), I never
> tried to actully use it. Well, now I did. And it does not work
> (21.2.2 -no-init-file).
>
> Is there a way for a mortal to understand/fix MULE bugs?
>
> SPECIFICS of the problem1: when asked to show cyrillic, it shows
> cyrillic indeed. However, the shown glyphs have no relationship to
> the actual Cyrillic text (e.g., in the Hello, World example). Do not
> have a slightest idea how to report it in more details...
It looks like pointing-fingers was not dead-on-the-target; while Emacs
is faulty, the principal blame should go to xrus-1251 and (allegedly)
Netscape. An excerpt from
http://www.siber.org/sib/russify/x-windows/#win-fonts
Yes, now you can have CP-1251 fonts on your X Window system.
We had to put them under the iso8859-5 because buggy Netscape would
not allow these fonts to work under official CP-1251 name.
So what I see may be a very widespread situation. Emacs can easily
detect that the font *is not* a iso8859-5 font (since iso8859-5 has
very few characters, and cp1251 has many). At least it could have
given a warning...
Now Emacs blames: very little documentation for fontsets available
(this site has no Elisp manual, so maybe there is something there;
there *are* some mentions of fontsets in Emacs manual, but they are
close to useless; I rate them close to "this function would do what
you want").
Fontsets are not even mentioned in the concept index available through
help menu.
Ilya
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-10-09 6:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-09-24 5:30 MULE shows gibberish; now what? Ilya Zakharevich
2002-09-24 8:42 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-09-24 15:59 ` Peter J. Acklam
2002-09-24 20:05 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-09-28 11:09 ` Peter J. Acklam
2002-09-28 12:22 ` Kai Großjohann
[not found] ` <k7l61bjc.fsf@online.no>
2002-09-28 15:58 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-09-28 16:32 ` Peter J. Acklam
2002-09-28 17:12 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-09-29 9:27 ` Peter J. Acklam
2002-09-29 15:45 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-09-29 16:27 ` Peter J. Acklam
2002-09-29 20:27 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-10-01 7:59 ` Peter J. Acklam
2002-09-29 20:13 ` Stefan Monnier <foo@acm.com>
2002-09-30 1:22 ` Miles Bader
[not found] ` <mailman.1033349070.28368.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2002-09-30 14:03 ` Stefan Monnier <foo@acm.com>
2002-09-29 20:27 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-09-29 0:03 ` Clemens Fischer
2002-09-29 15:44 ` Kai Großjohann
[not found] ` <amr0cn$2lvo$1@agate.berkeley.edu>
2002-09-25 14:11 ` Kai Großjohann
[not found] ` <amu08m$i97$1@agate.berkeley.edu>
2002-09-26 8:23 ` Kai Großjohann
[not found] ` <amvppk$10v4$1@agate.berkeley.edu>
2002-09-26 23:09 ` Oliver Scholz
2002-09-27 11:51 ` Kai Großjohann
[not found] ` <an2dcr$1phl$1@agate.berkeley.edu>
2002-09-27 20:43 ` Kai Großjohann
[not found] ` <an3ksh$27f2$1@agate.berkeley.edu>
2002-09-28 12:20 ` Kai Großjohann
[not found] ` <an7n4r$8dh$1@agate.berkeley.edu>
2002-09-30 20:49 ` Jason Rumney
2002-09-30 21:22 ` Ilya Zakharevich
2002-10-01 22:10 ` Jason Rumney
2002-10-02 1:30 ` Ilya Zakharevich
2002-10-02 13:10 ` Stefan Monnier <foo@acm.com>
2002-10-02 19:50 ` Jason Rumney
2002-09-29 12:28 ` Jason Rumney
[not found] ` <an0bd9$1832$1@agate.berkeley.edu>
2002-09-27 11:54 ` Kai Großjohann
[not found] ` <an2dig$1pi4$1@agate.berkeley.edu>
2002-09-27 20:37 ` Stefan Monnier <foo@acm.com>
2002-09-28 7:15 ` Ilya Zakharevich
2002-10-02 23:48 ` Ilya Zakharevich
2002-10-03 16:12 ` Stefan Monnier <foo@acm.com>
2002-10-05 10:00 ` Ilya Zakharevich
2002-10-05 16:07 ` Stefan Monnier <foo@acm.com>
2002-10-06 0:43 ` Ilya Zakharevich
2002-10-07 20:19 ` Stefan Monnier <foo@acm.com>
2002-10-08 0:39 ` Ilya Zakharevich
2002-10-08 13:33 ` Stefan Monnier <foo@acm.com>
2002-10-08 18:52 ` Ilya Zakharevich
2002-10-08 19:02 ` MULE shows gibberish; RAWIN-R vs iso8859-5 Ilya Zakharevich
2002-09-27 20:44 ` MULE shows gibberish; now what? Kai Großjohann
2002-09-27 22:30 ` Oliver Scholz
2002-09-27 22:42 ` Oliver Scholz
2002-09-27 7:29 ` Luis O. Silva
2002-09-27 7:28 ` Ilya Zakharevich
2002-10-09 6:14 ` Ilya Zakharevich [this message]
2002-10-31 0:48 ` Ilya Zakharevich
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