From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ilya Zakharevich Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: MULE shows gibberish; now what? Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 10:00:14 +0000 (UTC) Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department. Sender: help-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <5lwup7kw31.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> <5lzntvijqv.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1033812159 2687 127.0.0.1 (5 Oct 2002 10:02:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 10:02:39 +0000 (UTC) Bcc: ilya Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17xlld-0000hD-00 for ; Sat, 05 Oct 2002 12:02:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17xllK-0003MJ-00; Sat, 05 Oct 2002 06:02:18 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!agate.berkeley.edu!agate!ilya Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 87 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: powdermilk.math.berkeley.edu Original-X-Trace: agate.berkeley.edu 1033812014 51256 169.229.140.13 (5 Oct 2002 10:00:14 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@agate.berkeley.edu Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 10:00:14 +0000 (UTC) X-How-To-Reach-Me: The From: address is valid Originator: ilya@powdermilk Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:105742 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:2288 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:2288 [A complimentary Cc of this posting was sent to Stefan Monnier ], who wrote in article <5lzntvijqv.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu>: > > "Something else" does not help. What can it be? I posted the > > relevant parts of 'xrdb -query | grep -i font'. What else? > > I don't know what else. > I assume you're using `emacs -q --no-site-file' right ? > I've seen you mention --no-init-file (aka `-q') but not --no-site-file. > Could there be some global config in site-start.el or default.el ? Well, when I mentioned this, this were all the options. ;-) But meanwhile I tested it with -no-site-file too. > Or does this Emacs come from some RPM or some other such package where > the packagers might have changed the default ? How would I find it? > > Font or fontset: -misc-fixed-bold-*-*-*-*-140-75-75-*-*-*-1 > This is odd. Maybe the other poster (can't remember who it was) Hmm, do not remember seeing this message... > was right: your Xserver has a weird font setup with an alias > from -iso8859-5 > to -Cronyx-Fixed-Medium-R-Normal--15-140-75-75-C-90-RAWIN-R. > > Can you try to look for RAWIN in the output of something like > > xlsfonts -ll -fn '*-iso8859-5' OK, *this* I can do remotely. ;-) Done: name: -cronyx-courier-bold-o-normal--10-100-75-75-m-60-iso8859-5 direction: left to right indexing: linear rows: 0x00 thru 0x00 (0 thru 0) columns: 0x20 thru 0xff (32 thru 255) all chars exist: no default char: 0x0020 (32) ascent: 13 descent: 3 font type: Monospaced (font width not equal to AVERAGE_WIDTH) bounds: width left right asc desc attr keysym min 10 -1 -1 -1 -11 0x0000 max 10 7 14 12 3 0x0000 properties: 21 SPACING M FONTNAME_REGISTRY FOUNDRY Cronyx FAMILY_NAME Courier WEIGHT_NAME Bold SLANT O SETWIDTH_NAME Normal ADD_STYLE_NAME AVERAGE_WIDTH 60 CHARSET_REGISTRY RAWIN CHARSET_ENCODING R PIXEL_SIZE 10 POINT_SIZE 100 RESOLUTION_X 75 RESOLUTION_Y 75 COPYRIGHT Copyright (C) 1990, 1991 EWT Consulting, Portions Co pyright (C) 1994 Cronyx Ltd. FONT -Cronyx-Courier-Bold-O-Normal--10-100-75-75-M-60-RAWIN-R WEIGHT 10 RESOLUTION 132 X_HEIGHT 13 QUAD_WIDTH 10 Etc. A lot of them... In fact there are 3 fonts which have CHARSET_REGISTRY ISO8859, they have FOUNDRY ETL. How do I convince emacs to use them in preference to FOUNDRY Cronyx ones? BTW, why -etl-fixed-medium-r-normal--16-160-72-72-c-80-iso8859-5 is not prefered to the other guy automatically? What are the criteria? -etl-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-140-72-72-c-70-iso8859-5 -misc-fixed-bold-*-*-*-*-140-75-75-*-*-*-1 -Cronyx-Fixed-Medium-R-Normal--15-140-75-75-C-90-RAWIN-R. What can a sysadm do to fix this misconfiguration of thinking that rawin-r is iso8859-5 (if it is one)? Ilya