From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ilya Zakharevich Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: MULE shows gibberish; now what? Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 23:48:03 +0000 (UTC) Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department. Sender: help-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <5lwup7kw31.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1033712547 453 127.0.0.1 (4 Oct 2002 06:22:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 06:22:27 +0000 (UTC) Bcc: ilya Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17xLqy-00006t-00 for ; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 08:22:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17xLgI-0001BR-00; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 02:11:22 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!nntp.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!agate.berkeley.edu!agate!ilya Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 118 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: powdermilk.math.berkeley.edu Original-X-Trace: agate.berkeley.edu 1033602483 92164 169.229.140.13 (2 Oct 2002 23:48:03 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@agate.berkeley.edu Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 23:48:03 +0000 (UTC) X-How-To-Reach-Me: The From: address is valid Originator: ilya@powdermilk Original-Xref: nntp.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:105655 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:2231 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:2231 [A complimentary Cc of this posting was sent to Stefan Monnier ], who wrote in article <5lwup7kw31.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu>: > >> > font: -Cronyx-Fixed-Medium-R-Normal--15-140-75-75-C-90-RAWIN-R > [...] > > ??? I do not use that font. How many times should I repeat that tt > > is *Emacs* who choses this font? My resources for fonts are > > But there is no `cronyx' or `rawin-r' anywhere in the code of Emacs, so it > must get some "help" from somewhere in order to choose this font. > Normally for charset it looks for fonts with names of the form > *-...-*-*-, so there has to be something somewhere that tells Emacs to > use `rawin-r'. "Something else" does not help. What can it be? I posted the relevant parts of 'xrdb -query | grep -i font'. What else? > Can you do `M-x describe-face RET default RET' and tell us which > font Emacs says it's using ? Family: misc-fixed Width: normal Height: 120 Weight: bold Slant: normal Foreground: black Background: white Underline: nil Overline: nil Strike-through: nil Box: nil Inverse: nil Stipple: nil Font or fontset: -misc-fixed-bold-*-*-*-*-140-75-75-*-*-*-1 Inherit: unspecified > Can you then do M-x describe-fontset RET RET and show > us what that says ? 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