From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jude DaShiell Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: r.f.e. emacs tutorial Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 13:22:57 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87wo1om0ss.fsf@ebih.ebihd> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18109"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: Emanuel Berg , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 24 19:23:22 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kAGBk-0004Y1-FZ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 19:23:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56794 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kAGBj-0005M4-EQ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 13:23:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41922) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kAGBQ-0005Lm-R3 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 13:23:00 -0400 Original-Received: from mailbackend.panix.com ([166.84.1.89]:15486) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kAGBP-0006Jb-BF for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 13:23:00 -0400 Original-Received: from panix1.panix.com (panix1.panix.com [166.84.1.1]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BZzTt1jB3z1tyD; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 13:22:58 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: by panix1.panix.com (Postfix, from userid 20712) id 4BZzTt0mNjzcbY; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 13:22:58 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by panix1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BZzTt0HvPzcbW; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 13:22:57 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87wo1om0ss.fsf@ebih.ebihd> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=166.84.1.89; envelope-from=jdashiel@panix.com; helo=mailbackend.panix.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/08/24 12:24:39 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = FreeBSD 9.x or newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -41 X-Spam_score: -4.2 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.2 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:123748 Archived-At: In internet context request for enhancement similar to R.F.C. request for comments. On Mon, 24 Aug 2020, Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor wrote: > Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 13:05:55 > From: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor > > Reply-To: Emanuel Berg > To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > Subject: Re: r.f.e. emacs tutorial > > ... what is "r.f.e.", Radio Free Europe? > > Jude DaShiell wrote: > > > on the emacs debugger for when .emacs and similar > > files get messed up how to use emacs --debug to > > locate problems and repair those problems? > > There seems to be no such option as --debug according > to the man page emacs(1) (GNU Emacs 26.1, > 2007 April 13 - hm ... that old a man page?) > > OTOH, Emacs doesn't report an error on > $ emacs --debug # maybe because it is a prefix of > --debug-init, as e.g. --xyz does report > 'Unknown option'. > > (If indeed a prefix thing, it should be dropped IMO. > Error prone and doesn't look right - by > definition, even.) > > Anyway, keeping up with the man page, it says: > > --debug-init > Enable Emacs Lisp debugger during the process? > ing of the user init file ~/.emacs. This is > useful for debugging problems in the init file. > > Here, > > (info "(emacs) Initial Options") > > it says > > --debug-init? > Enable the Emacs Lisp debugger for errors in the init file. *Note > Entering the Debugger on an Error: (elisp)Error Debugging. > > which is a reference to > > (info "(elisp) Error Debugging") > > where > > (how-many "init") ; 4 > > HIH :) > > --