From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Another Emacs incompatibilty Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 16:54:53 +0000 Message-ID: References: <86r1s648dc.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> <86wo1xz4lt.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> <41360AD3-4EE0-4170-98CB-8167DAB51029@easesoftware.com> Reply-To: help-gnu-emacs , Gregory Heytings Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2931"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (NEB 202 2017-01-01) To: help-gnu-emacs Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 17 18:55:34 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k7iQ2-0000fY-94 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 18:55:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47648 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k7iQ1-0002rM-9Y for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 12:55:33 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51346) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k7iPX-0002qv-0R for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 12:55:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.24]:58068) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k7iPV-00019M-7p for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 12:55:02 -0400 Original-Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:ghe@faeroes.freeshell.org [205.166.94.9]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 07HGsugl001239 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Mon, 17 Aug 2020 16:54:56 GMT Original-Received: (from ghe@localhost) by sdf.org (8.15.2/8.12.8/Submit) id 07HGsu4u013284; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 16:54:56 GMT In-Reply-To: <41360AD3-4EE0-4170-98CB-8167DAB51029@easesoftware.com> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=205.166.94.24; envelope-from=ghe@sdf.org; helo=mx.sdf.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/08/17 10:45:17 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = ??? X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:123691 Archived-At: >>> For example, changing the way something as fundamental as regions work >>> in a very mature editor is just a bad idea. A really really bad idea. >>> By all means, define some other type of region and let that have other >>> semantics, or, let users opt in to incompatible regions by having them >>> set a variable in their .emacs. >>> >> >> Like Eli, I really wonder what this means. I've been using Emacs for >> about 25 years, and I've not seen any change in the way regions work. > > Perhaps he is talking about transient-mark-mode? > I don't think so. It was introduced in Emacs 19 (almost thirty years ago!), and it only requires (transient-mark-mode -1) in .emacs to be disabled.