From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: James Freer Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs keyboard Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2013 09:05:29 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: References: <878v88h276.fsf@debian.lduros.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1357402296 29659 80.91.229.3 (5 Jan 2013 16:11:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2013 16:11:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: David Combs , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: "Loic J. Duros" Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 05 17:11:52 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TrWLg-0003RW-5U for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2013 17:11:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42170 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TrWLO-00021O-HC for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2013 11:11:34 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:40778) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TrPhC-0001mQ-5T for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2013 04:05:39 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TrPhA-0002ry-S7 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2013 04:05:38 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wg0-f46.google.com ([74.125.82.46]:55335) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TrPhA-0002ra-Jl for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2013 04:05:36 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-wg0-f46.google.com with SMTP id dr13so7859392wgb.1 for ; Sat, 05 Jan 2013 01:05:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:date:from:x-x-sender:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to :message-id:references:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=vXvfv3PcvJhBbcolJUH9pdHy2peLCH5UALrrPZh6ANA=; b=T3ozDUQR4v7gqOl+Ji5QvYaVZ1lvsT05G5L7drJ1pxfqcM58bP056yQ6HF8G4HuxQc Gq5gE+R/atUT03RsYV6/w/waduZy8X68ekxUCsOPbunEpJKoS2T/OSIx9+FGGq2kIrU8 Q9jh25TTHrW/NUoK+Z1kKSmRlVHMcU5KRx+XM3M5TCv5j1DOahsAABCluGqxLUSFaCyU GPeGlAIFpow6XD9mbDp8LON3zBgMI91RqUK+2tdof4meIj57BcpMUBPz9zXvs+tNgzwM RtmHuSProkGN70sY7ZKJ7/hHM1AkA0Id9kdqWjXgSMmOL756yMtqHsv61B+8xepJXef6 PQtQ== X-Received: by 10.194.235.100 with SMTP id ul4mr87985561wjc.7.1357376735352; Sat, 05 Jan 2013 01:05:35 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from james-System-Product-Name.home (host81-131-172-214.range81-131.btcentralplus.com. [81.131.172.214]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fv2sm2343306wib.4.2013.01.05.01.05.32 (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 05 Jan 2013 01:05:34 -0800 (PST) X-X-Sender: james@james-System-Product-Name In-Reply-To: <878v88h276.fsf@debian.lduros.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 74.125.82.46 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 05 Jan 2013 11:11:29 -0500 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:88474 Archived-At: On Fri, 4 Jan 2013, Loic J. Duros wrote: > dkcombs@panix.com (David Combs) writes: > >> Sun (er, oracle) makes that type of keyboard, but >> also makes one with the control key immediately left >> of the "A" key, where it was on the original >> teletype-like machine (name escapes me now, but it >> ended in "33"). > > What's the difference with moving the ctrl key to the caps lock key on a > standard keyboard? > http://emacswiki.org/emacs/MovingTheCtrlKey It's not a big difference... just preference - less far to stretch the fingers. Capslock always used to be the location of the ctrl key on early keyboards which happened to suit those that use the wordstar keybindings (which are the most efficient in professional writers opinion... and mine). A lot of emacs users like them swapped for emacs bindings. Although i've got used to using the right ctrl key for wordstar mode. james