From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chris Seberino Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Can pdb (Python debugger) in Emacs be as efficient as a graphical debugger outside of Emacs that uses a mouse? Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2015 21:53:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1422770120 11462 80.91.229.3 (1 Feb 2015 05:55:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 05:55:20 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 01 06:55:20 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YHnV8-0004YJ-5v for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2015 06:55:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43611 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YHnV7-0002o6-FN for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2015 00:55:17 -0500 X-Received: by 10.182.78.69 with SMTP id z5mr7465509obw.4.1422770031839; Sat, 31 Jan 2015 21:53:51 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.182.165.4 with SMTP id yu4mr89404obb.26.1422770031623; Sat, 31 Jan 2015 21:53:51 -0800 (PST) Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!hl2no6111425igb.0!news-out.google.com!qk8ni19963igc.0!nntp.google.com!hl2no6111415igb.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=74.193.13.167; posting-account=VkuUtQkAAADKqMjRUmZTNs7a8uCSNNy2 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 74.193.13.167 User-Agent: G2/1.0 Injection-Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2015 05:53:51 +0000 Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:210134 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:102412 Archived-At: I tend to think Emacs can do many things more efficiently with the keyboard and without a mouse. I want to believe that is true for debugging but I'm not as sure. I've used DDD which allows one to quickly scroll through code and set breakpoints with a mouse. Furthermore, a second window is immediately available to display output. I'm not sure running pdb from a shell inside of Emacs can compete with that. Because pdb is command line driven it seems it will be faster. Is this something that is NOT faster inside of Emacs and actually BENEFITS from a mouse? cs