From: Basile Starynkevitch <basile@starynkevitch.net>
To: Christopher Howard <christopher@librehacker.com>,
Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
Cc: Emacs Tangents <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Including AI into Emacs
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2024 11:45:41 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ad41d544df092a072deab64cd41bad0c5ea21185.camel@starynkevitch.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87msh8ctag.fsf@librehacker.com>
On Fri, 2024-12-06 at 13:59 -0900, Christopher Howard wrote:
> Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> writes:
>
> > I believe it would be really beneficial to include AI into GNU
> > Emacs. Emacs is already a powerful tool, but adding AI features
> > could
> > make it even better. For example, AI could help with writing by
> > suggesting improvements or catching mistakes. It could also assist
> > with coding by providing smart autocomplete options or debugging
> > help. These features would make Emacs more efficient and
> > user-friendly, helping users get their work done faster and with
> > fewer
> > errors.
> >
>
> Could you clarify what you mean exactly but "including AI into GNU
> Emacs"? I know for sure I don't want Emacs sending information about
> my system, or questions that I have about Emacs or my project, off to
> some company's LLM chat system, or however that works exactly. I do
> not want to become dependent on some remote computer program or AI in
> order to be able to write code or figure out how Emacs works.
>
> I'm certain interested in running tools locally (same computer, or my
> network) that help me with "suggesting improvements, catching
> mistakes", etc. Do you need something massive like ChatGPT to
> accomplish that, or just some Emacs-centric expert systems? Or maybe
> something like MycroftAI, running locally?
>
Without needing a remote supercomputer, you could run
https://clipsrules.net/ on your Linux desktop (supplying it a rules
source file), or extend https://github.com/RefPerSys/RefPerSys (it is
GPLv3+ work-in-progress inference engine) to run locally on it and
suggest some improvement (or contextual autocompletion) to some EMACS
edited source file.
ChatGPT is certainly not the only possible open source symbolic AI
software, and they don't require a supercomputer or datacenter. For
example GNU prolog is also an open source AI software.
As a concrete example GNU chess is some open source AI program and you
don't need a datacenter to run it.
Very probably, both CLIPSRULES and RefPerSys could be extended (in a
few months of work) for simple tasks like English grammar checking or
English spellchecking.
Regards.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-12-10 10:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-12-06 17:19 Including AI into Emacs Jean Louis
2024-12-06 18:16 ` Bruno Barbier
2024-12-06 22:18 ` Jean Louis
2024-12-07 9:32 ` Bruno Barbier
2024-12-07 10:30 ` Jean Louis
2024-12-07 11:29 ` Bruno Barbier
2024-12-09 21:06 ` Jean Louis
2024-12-09 22:56 ` Bruno Barbier
2024-12-10 8:03 ` Jean Louis
2024-12-10 10:37 ` Bruno Barbier
2024-12-10 14:27 ` Jean Louis
2024-12-06 18:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-06 19:11 ` Basile Starynkevitch
2024-12-06 21:14 ` Jean Louis
2024-12-06 22:26 ` Jean Louis
2024-12-06 22:59 ` Christopher Howard
2024-12-06 23:21 ` Jean Louis
2024-12-10 10:45 ` Basile Starynkevitch [this message]
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-12-06 17:22 Jean Louis
2024-12-06 18:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-06 18:32 ` John Yates
2024-12-06 19:06 ` Jean Louis
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