From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rusi Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: A guide on setting up C/C++ development environment for Emacs Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 20:30:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <513ad0e2-f7f4-484c-b17b-7c94a8c2fc7a@googlegroups.com> <8738chaieo.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87tx4x9353.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87ppfl91ft.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87lhq98zoy.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87ha0x8xbh.fsf@wanadoo.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1409196629 19467 80.91.229.3 (28 Aug 2014 03:30:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 03:30:29 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 28 05:30:20 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XMqPj-00082h-0y for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 05:30:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34305 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XMqPi-0006wQ-GJ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 23:30:18 -0400 X-Received: by 10.50.25.41 with SMTP id z9mr20546527igf.2.1409196607281; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 20:30:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.50.30.38 with SMTP id p6mr53083igh.8.1409196607028; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 20:30:07 -0700 (PDT) Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!r2no8852375igi.0!news-out.google.com!aw9ni6214igc.0!nntp.google.com!uq10no6100783igb.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=59.95.0.145; posting-account=mBpa7woAAAAGLEWUUKpmbxm-Quu5D8ui Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 59.95.0.145 User-Agent: G2/1.0 Injection-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 03:30:07 +0000 Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:207171 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:99448 Archived-At: On Thursday, August 28, 2014 4:47:42 AM UTC+5:30, Jai Dayal wrote: > Actually, nope. When I decide to install an OS, say CentOS, I do not expect > to find a discussion on the pluses and minuses of CentOS on the > installation page. That's a completely different topic that has nothing to > do with CentOS installation. In the FLOSS world what Jai is describing is the norm: For any system X - the X-folks talk of how to use and only its pros - the anti-X folks have all the time to bash unconstructively - a very short supply of balanced reasonable comparison and useful workarounds Jai seems to think this is a good separation. Personally I often find FLOSS folks at least as dishonest as the corporate types [No surprise, given that human beings are the same...] And diplomatic silence is often the most painful (for me) kind of dishonesty. Example: I joined the Linux audio list when I was having a hell of a time with some beast called pulseaudio. [I'm just an amateur musician... wanted to type some music... NO clue or interest in pulseaudio... Evidently it was obstructing something] I got some vague 'pro-pulseaudio' response on how to solve my problem. Nothing else. And my problem remained unsolved. After hanging around the list for months I slowly discovered that - most everyone hates pulse - people are doing apt-get purge pulse as routine - when that fails they are changing distros The fact that it took me months to find that out is what I call 'dishonest diplomacy'