From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "Garreau, Alexandre" <galex-713@galex-713.eu>
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: RE: `when' vs. `and' / `unless' vs `or'
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 16:21:06 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ad2508c1-69ae-40eb-a039-48a3fb2503af@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zhvdldoh.fsf@portable.galex-713.eu>
> Okay, so what about when you care about the result, but absolutely not
> about the return value of the condition?
>
> (unless cond body) vs (or cond body) -> `or' might imply you might want
> to return cond.
I don't understand the question. I use (or ...) when I want to return
the value of a disjunction, where that value, if non-nil, might be
any non-nil Lisp value. If (or cond body) returns cond then it's
because cond is non-nil? What's the question? (And there is no
"cond" as in condition versus "body" as in body. `or' just returns
the first non-nil arg, or nil if none is non-nil.)
> > I use `and' or `or' when the return value is significant.
> > (With `not' as needed.)
> >
> > I use `if' when the true part is a single sexp. If necessary,
> > to respect this I flip the true and false parts (negating the
> > condition).
>
> So unless it is simple, you always write your big-conditions if as an
> imbrication of both `or' and `and'? isn’t this actually less easy to
> understand (even if easier to read with indentation)?
Dunno what you mean. Isn't what less easy to understand than
what? What's a "big-condition"?
I use `if' when the code cares about the return value, just like
`or' and `and'. If the code doesn't care about the return value,
and if there is only one condition, then I use `when' or `unless'.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-10-16 23:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-10-16 21:05 `when' vs. `and' / `unless' vs `or' Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-16 22:13 ` Drew Adams
2018-10-16 22:38 ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-16 23:21 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2018-10-17 0:02 ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-17 0:16 ` Drew Adams
2018-10-17 1:25 ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-17 1:58 ` Drew Adams
2018-10-17 9:00 ` Garreau, Alexandre
[not found] ` <mailman.2299.1539766826.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-17 9:49 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-17 15:42 ` Michael Heerdegen
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