From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Dyballa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: umlauts (8bit characters) input Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 11:27:50 +0100 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=X-MAC-ROMAN-LATIN1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1107343596 18506 80.91.229.2 (2 Feb 2005 11:26:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 11:26:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 02 12:26:35 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CwIeU-0008Sy-6I for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Feb 2005 12:26:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CwIra-00080Z-8P for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Feb 2005 06:40:02 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1CwIef-0003MT-1R for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Feb 2005 06:26:41 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1CwIed-0003Lp-Lz for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Feb 2005 06:26:40 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CwIe7-0002tj-MR for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Feb 2005 06:26:07 -0500 Original-Received: from [217.72.192.225] (helo=smtp07.web.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1CwI8D-0002g2-2H; Wed, 02 Feb 2005 05:53:09 -0500 Original-Received: from [80.184.166.230] (helo=[192.168.1.2]) by smtp07.web.de with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (WEB.DE 4.103 #192) id 1CwI8C-00035R-00; Wed, 02 Feb 2005 11:53:08 +0100 In-Reply-To: Original-To: David Kastrup X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Sender: Peter_Dyballa@web.de X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:23847 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:23847 Am 01.02.2005 um 13:36 schrieb David Kastrup: >> And yes, if I change my locale to UTF-8, emacs shall just follow case >> without me having to edit the whole .emacs file again. > > And Emacs does just that. Throw out whatever customization of locales > and whatsoever you have in your .emacs, or start with an empty .emacs, > and it should work. Well, throwing away all this "valuable" customization leads in Terminal=20= to dired-buffers with 'uuu' encoding -- and short and precise file=20 names with real umlauts! But in shell they're gone ... a bunch of=20 control codes? (I am using tcsh and see=20 a\314?o\314?u\314?\303?U\314?O\314?A\314?\342?\254 instead of =E4=F6=FC?=DC= =D6=C4=DB,=20 shell has only 'uu-') The X11 client is even worse: copy and paste in this same Emacs does=20 not work (a simple =E4 is converted to a whole book volume of glyphs = that=20 are hard to describe), dired-mode uses a simple 'u' (mode-line goes=20 '-u:%%...') and displays 'aou...=DB', and shell uses no mode=20= '--:**...' as in Terminal and shows the name as in Terminal. In xterm shell has '-uu-:**..' and shows the same as in Terminal. Again=20= dired works fine! So it seems I have to wait for GNU Emacs 25 -- if I'm still alive! -- Mit friedvollen Gr=FC=DFen Pete Es ist, glaub' ich, nichts so hei=DF, wie's gerne scheinen m=F6chte.