From: rustom <rustompmody@gmail.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: About Emacs Modernisation Project
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 10:20:25 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a5aa70f3-fa1b-473b-afb7-d5a30de076e0@x27g2000prf.googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: A8adnU4nRdZtz5vRnZ2dnUVZ_q2dnZ2d@sysmatrix.net
On Jun 2, 5:47 pm, "B. T. Raven" <ni...@nihilo.net> wrote:
> rustom wrote:
> > On Jun 1, 1:40 pm, p...@informatimago.com (Pascal J. Bourguignon)
> > wrote:
> >> Evans Winner <tho...@unm.edu> writes:
> >>> LanX <lanx.p...@googlemail.com> writes:
> >>> No name spaces, no real lexical variables [...]
> >>> These are not bugs, they are features. One uses the right
> >>> tool for the job. It is highly unlikely that the language
> >>> of choice for serious hackers working on developing large,
> >>> complex systems is going to be the same language chosen for
> >>> casual text editor users who want to quickly and simply
> >>> customize some element of their editor.
> >> Possibly. However, if emacs was reprogrammed in Common Lisp, you
> >> could have both. Naive users could be provided with an environment
> >> with only dynamic binding and a unique namespace, while sophisticated
> >> programmers could use all the features of Common Lisp. Also, as
> >> mentionned in another post, it would be easier to implement other
> >> user-friend scripting languages in Common Lisp than in emacs lisp.
>
> > I remember seeing a paper (by a German I think) in which he claimed
> > that he could *fully automatically* translate elisp to scheme. Does
> > anyone remember this? [My google foo is not up-to-the-mark...]
>
> It might have been this (out of Freiburg and Tuebingen, 2001):
>
> http://www-pu.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de/users/sperber/papers/dynami...
Yeah this may be it but now when I see it it says it cant handle eval.
The last time I saw it it said it could handle eval (at least thats
what I remember) because I remember finding it incredible
[Without trying to prove it, translating eval correctly would amount
to solving the halting problem. For those unfamiliar with CS
technicalities this is as anomalous as making say a perpetual motion
machine]
>
> Anyway, there is menttion of the el2scm project.
>
> Ed
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[not found] <143c6d28-4423-4e43-9fc5-c0fb3340043b@c11g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>
2010-05-31 15:44 ` About Emacs Modernisation Project Pascal J. Bourguignon
[not found] ` <0e994fe3-6dde-449f-879d-6701c7a195a9@e28g2000vbd.googlegroups.com>
2010-05-31 19:41 ` Alessandro Piras
[not found] ` <c41c63c0-b934-442d-8385-1abff6ab9b0b@s41g2000vba.googlegroups.com>
2010-06-01 0:40 ` Alessandro Piras
2010-06-02 6:07 ` Xah Lee
[not found] ` <87iq63wsvt.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com>
2010-06-01 0:06 ` LanX
2010-06-01 8:44 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-06-01 11:19 ` LanX
2010-06-01 12:56 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-06-02 6:17 ` Xah Lee
[not found] ` <87ljazofkn.fsf@rapttech.com.au>
2010-05-31 23:33 ` LanX
2010-06-01 10:28 ` Helmut Eller
2010-06-01 11:27 ` LanX
2010-06-01 12:29 ` Helmut Eller
2010-06-01 12:55 ` LanX
2010-06-01 12:59 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-06-01 12:59 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-06-02 17:05 ` Xah Lee
2010-06-02 17:50 ` Helmut Eller
[not found] ` <87r5krh3e0.fsf@unm.edu>
2010-06-01 8:40 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-06-01 17:34 ` rustom
2010-06-02 12:47 ` B. T. Raven
2010-06-02 17:20 ` rustom [this message]
2010-06-01 19:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-01 23:22 ` LanX
[not found] ` <slrni0b8nm.9k6.bergv@u00.math.uiuc.edu>
2010-06-02 11:39 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
[not found] ` <e73e123d-3f0c-4a6f-bbac-b91fb71bf07d@f14g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>
2010-06-03 9:26 ` Emulating namespaces Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-06-03 15:33 ` LanX
2010-06-03 17:41 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
[not found] ` <87mxvegz12.fsf@unm.edu>
2010-06-01 23:36 ` About Emacs Modernisation Project Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-06-02 5:58 ` Evans Winner
2010-06-04 18:33 ` Joseph Brenner
2010-06-05 2:55 ` Tim X
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