From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rusi Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: RTF for emacs Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 21:16:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <87fvjvc48v.fsf@debian.uxu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1401164430 27867 80.91.229.3 (27 May 2014 04:20:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 04:20:30 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 27 06:20:24 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Wp8sB-0006k4-Ma for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 27 May 2014 06:20:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59725 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wp8sB-0005vT-6w for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 27 May 2014 00:20:23 -0400 X-Received: by 10.236.137.50 with SMTP id x38mr11808468yhi.9.1401164167916; Mon, 26 May 2014 21:16:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.50.6.103 with SMTP id z7mr571070igz.11.1401164167820; Mon, 26 May 2014 21:16:07 -0700 (PDT) Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!c1no17972258igq.0!news-out.google.com!gi6ni15574igc.0!nntp.google.com!hl10no6107640igb.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help In-Reply-To: <87fvjvc48v.fsf@debian.uxu> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=59.95.53.155; posting-account=mBpa7woAAAAGLEWUUKpmbxm-Quu5D8ui Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 59.95.53.155 User-Agent: G2/1.0 Injection-Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 04:16:07 +0000 Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:205629 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:97899 Archived-At: On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 8:33:28 AM UTC+5:30, Emanuel Berg wrote: > But if I had to do those short documents (and couldn't use plain > text) I would want something that still isn't "compiled". There's html along with html editors like mozilla. > I would want to see the changes instantly as I make them, otherwise > it would be complete torture to produce any quantity of such > documents. I don't know if Org-mode does that, probably. Org is heaven for people who think like programmers. And by 'think like a programmer' I mean thinking structurally rather than presentationally and looking for a way to batch-mode boring repetitious activities. And of course batch-mode and wysiwig are not compatible. Yes org will compress links and in general nesting (headings) structure but its focus is always on structure, not presentation. For the presentation you need to call export -- a keystroke away. Analogous to a programmer calling the compiler If that is not to your taste then as I said use html. Yeah org has nifty export-to-html. But its uni-directional. Just like a C compiler can produce assembly. I can edit the assembly if I like but its not possible to go back from modified assembly to correspondingly changed C. Of course the same situation obtains for latex. One can go from latex to pdf and then edit the pdf in acrobat or some such. This is so ridiculously hard that no one even thinks of it!